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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 22:03:37 GMT -5
As of now, nothing is set in stone. However, Tomo has made it clear to me that he highly advises against it, due to safety concerns.
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Post by Auransky on Jul 30, 2016 22:23:13 GMT -5
The reason some people have been posting it is because of the short hand on moderation. ^^ There is currently a process going through, on searching for a moderation team, A.SAP. Stay patient, and I'm certain that Tomorrow's new team will be enforcing the rules in no time.  |
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Post by mysticmagic on Jul 30, 2016 22:43:41 GMT -5
i've been wondering the same thing. i (am putting in my own 2 cents no-one asked for lmao) disagree with the safety issues with them, though. there are MANY sites out there that allow them, and personally the worst thing i've see happen is people get their photos stolen, and considering this is such a small community, what with everyone here being from the wcf, and the fact that guests can't see the boards, i think that'll be unlikely. but yeah, in my opinion they should be allowed! if you don't want to, or don't feel comfortable that's fine! i just don't see any major risks with it
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Post by Auransky on Jul 30, 2016 22:52:40 GMT -5
i've been wondering the same thing. i (am putting in my own 2 cents no-one asked for lmao) disagree with the safety issues with them, though. there are MANY sites out there that allow them, and personally the worst thing i've see happen is people get their photos stolen, and considering this is such a small community, what with everyone here being from the wcf, and the fact that guests can't see the boards, i think that'll be unlikely. but yeah, in my opinion they should be allowed! if you don't want to, or don't feel comfortable that's fine! i just don't see any major risks with it Maybe not, but there is still a younger audience who have parents checking this site out as we speak. Think of this through a business aspect- Selfies just like coffee can result in a lawsuit. A lawsuit that could have been avoided should a small detail been taken care off. Have you herd of some of the craziest things people get into legal trouble for? A lady sued McDonald's for getting a cold coffee, because she wanted hot coffee Someone sued Starbucks for getting the wrong order Someone sued an RV company because a sale's men told her about cruise control "doing the driving for you" - She assumed this, and left her RV unattended only to crash. Then sued, now we have labels saying the cruise control keeps your speed going, NOT drives for you. That being said, there is a little more to the selfie reason then people consider. HOWEVER this will be for Tomorrow-Mod to decide later. ^^ |
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Post by ☾ Cʀᴇsᴄᴇɴᴛ ☽ on Jul 30, 2016 23:12:43 GMT -5
I would say probably not, due to, as Shining said, lawsuits and safety issues
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Post by mysticmagic on Jul 30, 2016 23:30:50 GMT -5
i've been wondering the same thing. i (am putting in my own 2 cents no-one asked for lmao) disagree with the safety issues with them, though. there are MANY sites out there that allow them, and personally the worst thing i've see happen is people get their photos stolen, and considering this is such a small community, what with everyone here being from the wcf, and the fact that guests can't see the boards, i think that'll be unlikely. but yeah, in my opinion they should be allowed! if you don't want to, or don't feel comfortable that's fine! i just don't see any major risks with it Maybe not, but there is still a younger audience who have parents checking this site out as we speak. Think of this through a business aspect- Selfies just like coffee can result in a lawsuit. A lawsuit that could have been avoided should a small detail been taken care off. Have you herd of some of the craziest things people get into legal trouble for? A lady sued McDonald's for getting a cold coffee, because she wanted hot coffee Someone sued Starbucks for getting the wrong order Someone sued an RV company because a sale's men told her about cruise control "doing the driving for you" - She assumed this, and left her RV unattended only to crash. Then sued, now we have labels saying the cruise control keeps your speed going, NOT drives for you. That being said, there is a little more to the selfie reason then people consider. HOWEVER this will be for Tomorrow-Mod to decide later. ^^ |
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Post by Auransky on Jul 30, 2016 23:36:39 GMT -5
Maybe not, but there is still a younger audience who have parents checking this site out as we speak. Think of this through a business aspect- Selfies just like coffee can result in a lawsuit. A lawsuit that could have been avoided should a small detail been taken care off. Have you herd of some of the craziest things people get into legal trouble for? A lady sued McDonald's for getting a cold coffee, because she wanted hot coffee Someone sued Starbucks for getting the wrong order Someone sued an RV company because a sale's men told her about cruise control "doing the driving for you" - She assumed this, and left her RV unattended only to crash. Then sued, now we have labels saying the cruise control keeps your speed going, NOT drives for you. That being said, there is a little more to the selfie reason then people consider. HOWEVER this will be for Tomorrow-Mod to decide later. ^^ Perhaps we are over-thinking it, but WCF closes in about a few weeks. So with that in mind, there will be younger users begging their parents to let them switch. Let's think of this now in the long run - These forums at the moment are accessed through the passing link. Maybe later down the road this site will start to rp more commonly on search engines. New users may find it, since it appears to be like the GO TO place for WCF fandom. They may have parents observe this, then that observation could lead to problems. (Now this is a farfetched possibility, but we also need to take into account that this is kinda the communities way of preserving what they love.) I only bring up these possibilities because I am studying to be a teacher, and some of our classes involve being out on the actual field. I've dealt with parents, and pictures/selfies/just anything that says "Hello this is me!" can set one or two parents off with the panic button. Not saying all parents are; however it is the minority of parents that seem to always ruin to experience for the majority. Better to be safe, then sorry! |
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Post by mysticmagic on Jul 30, 2016 23:44:15 GMT -5
ahh that makes sense, i didn't really think it through that much. although we could be over-thinking it as of now, with it being quite small here, i feel like that's pretty unlikely. but that's totally understandable, and not a risk we'd like to take. ^.^ Perhaps we are over-thinking it, but WCF closes in about a few weeks. So with that in mind, there will be younger users begging their parents to let them switch. Let's think of this now in the long run - These forums at the moment are accessed through the passing link. Maybe later down the road this site will start to rp more commonly on search engines. New users may find it, since it appears to be like the GO TO place for WCF fandom. They may have parents observe this, then that observation could lead to problems. (Now this is a farfetched possibility, but we also need to take into account that this is kinda the communities way of preserving what they love.) I only bring up these possibilities because I am studying to be a teacher, and some of our classes involve being out on the actual field. I've dealt with parents, and pictures/selfies/just anything that says "Hello this is me!" can set one or two parents off with the panic button. Not saying all parents are; however it is the minority of parents that seem to always ruin to experience for the majority. Better to be safe, then sorry! |
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Post by ⋆ ɑetɧeɾ « on Jul 31, 2016 0:00:05 GMT -5
also just to point out, there are some strict parents who would like to think that their child is being responsible on the web. So, if they see their child using a real pic of themselves as an avatar or a selfie, they may get the wrong idea, and the poor kid may not be able to get on any website without their parent glued to their shoulder bc "stranger danger".
(I am a result of this, tho not concerning selfies, its the fact I was "talking to strangers" and "predators could find me through a kid website". Yeah my mom doesn't like the wcf, so for the past 7 years I basically snuck on lol, but that's besides the point.)
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Post by leafwillow on Jul 31, 2016 0:17:37 GMT -5
Omg same, I'm not supposed to be here, or Wattpad, or Deviantart, or Instagram, or anywhere for that matter
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Post by ⋆ ɑetɧeɾ « on Jul 31, 2016 0:22:04 GMT -5
yeah haha. Recently my mom kinda-sorta accepted me going on wattpad lol so.
but hey what is she going to do, I mean, sure I still live with her but i'll be 20 in a few months, I think the kid rule she had on me should be taken off /:
Still, tho, my mom is weird lol so.
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Post by ⋆ ɑetɧeɾ « on Jul 31, 2016 0:22:35 GMT -5
I'm allowed to be here, Mweor, Wattpad, DA, and Facebook. But me, being a rebel, is also on Twitter omg |
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Post by kiddo on Jul 31, 2016 0:23:45 GMT -5
I'm allowed to be here, Mweor, Wattpad, DA, and Facebook. But me, being a rebel, is also on Twitter omg Ikr I'm such a delinquent |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 0:24:35 GMT -5
As a note - I also had issues with my mom trying to control my internet usage for the longest time. It only stopped once I moved out a few months ago. I am an adult now and live my own life seperately, but I can atestify that there was a day I had to hide that I was using any sort of social media. My mom literally blamed WCf as well as WCRPG (feralfront) for my downfall healthwise, and said that they were evil and I'm not allowed to use them.
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Post by kiddo on Jul 31, 2016 0:26:20 GMT -5
As a note - I also had issues with my mom trying to control my internet usage for the longest time. It only stopped once I moved out a few months ago. I am an adult now and live my own life seperately, but I can atestify that there was a day I had to hide that I was using any sort of social media. My mom literally blamed WCf as well as WCRPG (feralfront) for my downfall healthwise, and said that they were evil and I'm not allowed to use them. You gotta admit the WCFs where a pretty evil place at times |
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Post by Dawnwing on Jul 31, 2016 0:34:18 GMT -5
Maybe just a selfie thread instead of allowing it in avatars (so that you don't have to view it if you're uncomfortable with it)? Maybe only allow those who are of age or have parental permission to post them?
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Post by kiddo on Jul 31, 2016 0:35:59 GMT -5
Maybe just a selfie thread instead of allowing it in avatars (so that you don't have to view it if you're uncomfortable with it)? Maybe only allow those who are of age or have parental permission to post them? Maybe the basic "13 Years Or Older" rule? I believe that is COPPA requirements, anyways. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 0:37:14 GMT -5
That could be a possiblity - but there is still no perfect, 100% accurate way to determine if someone is lying about their age or parental consent. There could be people to slip through the cracks - and it could still pose a safety risk and possibly even bring on legal parameters. :/
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Post by ⋆ ɑetɧeɾ « on Jul 31, 2016 0:37:34 GMT -5
yeah. My mom would go crazy and like try SO SO hard to tell me that crazy people would like find me on wcf and find where I lived and stuff
and then in the same breath she told me "if you want to play on the internet and talk to people, go on facebook"
if I'm not correct, doesn't facebook like idk tell your location with every post, show your face and name and etc, and like idk personal stuff? whereas wcf only showed me as a cat and a cool name :]
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Post by ⋆ ɑetɧeɾ « on Jul 31, 2016 0:39:22 GMT -5
but yeah, for selfies, I think it just depend on what the Mod(s) think.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 0:39:43 GMT -5
My mom wouldn't even let me have facebook for a long time. Finally after many instances of her discovering my secret facebook accounts, shr realized it was a battle that wasn't worth fighting and gave in.
She moved on to hounding me about the dangers of WCF and FF.
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Post by kiddo on Jul 31, 2016 0:41:29 GMT -5
That could be a possiblity - but there is still no perfect, 100% accurate way to determine if someone is lying about their age or parental consent. There could be people to slip through the cracks - and it could still pose a safety risk and possibly even bring on legal parameters. :/ There's never gonna be a way to make sure a person is lying or no. I think its just going to simply be either its allowed, or no. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 0:43:10 GMT -5
but yeah, for selfies, I think it just depend on what the Mod(s) think. True. It is up to them in the end. However, I think we should be allowed to share an opinion. Although I like the idea of being able to share selfies and such, there are children who use websites like these, and it could put them at risk, however small the risk is. And then legal parameters could be brought forward if something were to happen, starclan forbid. Maybe there could be some sort of compromise or something though |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 0:43:37 GMT -5
That could be a possiblity - but there is still no perfect, 100% accurate way to determine if someone is lying about their age or parental consent. There could be people to slip through the cracks - and it could still pose a safety risk and possibly even bring on legal parameters. :/ There's never gonna be a way to make sure a person is lying or no. I think its just going to simply be either its allowed, or no. Agreed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 1:07:50 GMT -5
i'm pretty trusting of people on here (in fact i met up with someone i met on the wcf irl back in june) so i don't think many legal issues could arise from sharing selfies, HOWEVER i feel like we're better safe than sorry.
i agree with not having selfies in avatars and keeping them to designated threads, i feel like having irl pics of yourself as an avvie would just lead to problems.
i also agree with being of age or having parental consent to post one, although i'm not sure how that could be enforced because you can always, yknow, lie.
tis a sticky web, i want people on here to continue having fun in a relaxed atmosphere but i also dont want problems popping up that could've been avoided.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 1:10:13 GMT -5
i'm pretty trusting of people on here (in fact i met up with someone i met on the wcf irl back in june) so i don't think many legal issues could arise from sharing selfies, HOWEVER i feel like we're better safe than sorry. i agree with not having selfies in avatars and keeping them to designated threads, i feel like having irl pics of yourself as an avvie would just lead to problems. i also agree with being of age or having parental consent to post one, although i'm not sure how that could be enforced because you can always, yknow, lie. tis a sticky web, i want people on here to continue having fun in a relaxed atmosphere but i also dont want problems popping up that could've been avoided. Exactly my dude!! |
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