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Post by Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ on Sept 24, 2016 17:04:51 GMT -5
Hey Guys. I had a thread on OTD called Let It out. It's a safe space where you could talk to me and Picia(Co-creator) and other people about your feelings and issues. Since we can't access it right now I wanted to let everyone know that Mine and Pic's Inboxes are open if you need to vent or talk about anything. OTD will probably be up in a few days which is fine, I think people need to cool off anyways and realize that all this fighting isn't really worth it. I understand that everyone is upset and scared but I don't think yelling at the admins about anything is going to fix it. Tomo decided to put their time and effort into creating this forum for all of us. Let's not forget that. They probably didn't realize how immature a bunch of people were going to be. It's okay to criticize people. But I feel you should have a viable solution to the issue before you just start accusing admins of not doing their job. Yelling at them isn't going to fix anything.There are over 2,000 members on here. That's a lot of people. Obviously Tomo and Ros can't make everyone happy, but they are trying to make this a SAFE place free of all the drama and hatred that I've seen around. I don't think Tomo will ban people randomly as they haven't broken the rules for criticizing him but please remember that He is a human being too and we are all learning how to work together as a community. I already proposed a solution to the problem a week or two ago and was told it was "too much work". Tomo hasn't done anything to make this place safe in the past month. He's barely even been on, which is irresponsible for a forum owner to do.
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Post by The Noble Dragon on Sept 24, 2016 17:07:55 GMT -5
I didn't come here to argue. If you came up with a solution and was told it won't work then try a different solution. Compromising is better than attacking others. I hope you have a good day.
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Post by Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ on Sept 24, 2016 17:09:18 GMT -5
I didn't come here to argue. If you came up with a solution and was told it won't work then try a different solution. Compromising is better than attacking others. I hope you have a good day. I'm not attacking you. I'm defending myself against an accusation that I'm overreacting. Besides, it's not the job of us normal members to come up with a thousand solutions for problems the staff are supposed to handle.
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Post by Ginz on Sept 24, 2016 17:11:35 GMT -5
In my opinion, you aren't giving the staff enough credit. Yes, there are flaws — I'm not denying that. However, there are many things the staff does that you wouldn't see yourself.
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Post by Sand on Sept 24, 2016 17:13:03 GMT -5
Sure! 3kits also posted something in News & Announcements if anyone has concerns and whatnot. If needed, I can link it 3kits' post is nice and all, but it's not the mods with the problem. It's tomo who needs to get his act together. He hasn't even been on at all to deal with the growing OTD issue that's been developing for about a month now. I think that's why some people are going to different sites. We want to be able to help, and we need people to TELL US what they are concerned over besides the obvious. There's more to it than what is obvious in my opinion. There are things about Tomo's situation right now that I know of but I am not going to say them because I don't want to put his personal life out here. It's his choice to make his actions what they are. We want to solve this and if the community comes forward, it's helpful to both sides
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Post by The Noble Dragon on Sept 24, 2016 17:14:37 GMT -5
I wasn't saying you were attacking me, sorry for not being clear on that. I meant attacking others(Which I wasn't specifying you either, i was talking in general). But you are right. Attacking is a strong word so I apologize for using it. Compromising is better than putting the blame on others and not doing anythng to fix the problem.
So you are saying that 8 staff members are supposed to come up with "a thousand solutions" all on their own? It may not be our job but the least we can do is help. After all Tomo didn't have to make these forums and it isn't his fault he's been busy in real life. He probably has a job and other things to attend to, like a lot of us do.
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Post by LUNA on Sept 24, 2016 17:15:00 GMT -5
Now, I missed all of this drama as I haven't been able to get online for a while but all I can say {from what I've gathered} is that it's a little disappointing that things have even come to this. Now, I don't know who to blame {if there is anybody} and I've seen two sides, one saying places of 'power'are taking advantage but aren't doing their jobs well and I've seen others saying that it's other people's faults for fighting and such. But regardless of whom may be at fault, it shouldn't get to this level discord and truthfully, it's a little disappointing to come back to. I'm certainly staying neutral until I possess all of the facts. I must say though, I greatly respect those who are keeping a cool head and are actually viewing this with mature and collected views, such people are needed.
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Post by Sand on Sept 24, 2016 17:15:55 GMT -5
3kits' post is nice and all, but it's not the mods with the problem. It's tomo who needs to get his act together. He hasn't even been on at all to deal with the growing OTD issue that's been developing for about a month now. I think that's why some people are going to different sites. It also doesn't help that we get told to be grateful or they do a lot or whatever. It's like what we're saying is invalid. It's why I'm not going to report the stuff in PM because it falls on deaf ears. It will no longer fall on deaf ears, I'm telling you that now. So come forward, start PMing.
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Post by Reverend 3 kits on Sept 24, 2016 17:17:18 GMT -5
Sure! 3kits also posted something in News & Announcements if anyone has concerns and whatnot. If needed, I can link it 3kits' post is nice and all, but it's not the mods with the problem. It's tomo who needs to get his act together. He hasn't even been on at all to deal with the growing OTD issue that's been developing for about a month now. I think that's why some people are going to different sites. If your issues is with a specific staff member you can message me what your issue with them is. Even if you've said it elsewhere on the forums, having a PM is useful since it's easier to look through them and see what everyone thinks.
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Post by The Noble Dragon on Sept 24, 2016 17:19:52 GMT -5
Lana it looks like Roswell is considering your suggestion! That's great!!
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Post by Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ on Sept 24, 2016 17:22:51 GMT -5
3kits' post is nice and all, but it's not the mods with the problem. It's tomo who needs to get his act together. He hasn't even been on at all to deal with the growing OTD issue that's been developing for about a month now. I think that's why some people are going to different sites. If your issues is with a specific staff member you can message me what your issue with them is. Even if you've said it elsewhere on the forums, having a PM is useful since it's easier to look through them and see what everyone thinks. It's kind of hard when the staff member I have an issue with doesn't even come online. Thanks for trying to step up and be responsible, though you shouldn't have to take that weight on your shoulders. If anything, the post you made should have been made by tomo or roswell.
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Post by Sand on Sept 24, 2016 17:30:12 GMT -5
Since your problem is with Tomo, you can at least give us some light on it, especially the deeper details. We want to do something so that we aren't sitting around and doing nothing. Just air it out through a PM if that helps too. We can try contacting Tomo too, it's not as hard as it seems.
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Post by Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ on Sept 24, 2016 17:39:19 GMT -5
Since your problem is with Tomo, you can at least give us some light on it, especially the deeper details. We want to do something so that we aren't sitting around and doing nothing. Just air it out through a PM if that helps too. We can try contacting Tomo too, it's not as hard as it seems. Basically my issues with tomo are: 1) He's barely been on at all in the past month. 2) Instead of dealing with the OTD issue in a calm, mature manner, he decided to just lock the whole section and then yell at us about it because it interrupted his life. 3) The fact that his whole "calm down" post made it sound like all of the fault was on us and us alone. 4) His lack of responsiveness as owner of this site. 5) The fact that he's pretty much ignored the OTD problem until it got so big and so bad the section had to be shut down. 6) The fact that he acted annoyed that our PMs about said problems were making his phone go crazy, when he should be expecting that as an admin and owner.
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Post by Sand on Sept 24, 2016 17:41:23 GMT -5
I'd rather go over this with you in a pm as it's easier for me to find + so I can respond to it and remember where it's located gimme a second ^^
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Post by neb on Sept 24, 2016 18:09:33 GMT -5
ah, yes, this thread is definitely going to save the forum and not going to contribute to this discourse yep i am an everyday forum saver. customized title from the mods maybe?
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Post by ⋆ ɑetɧeɾ « on Sept 24, 2016 22:36:24 GMT -5
Here's my two sense: just because one of the parents arent around and keeping an eye on things, that doesnt mean the kids can run amok and create chaos, mock the parent, etc. Not saying everyone did it, but, besides the chaotic nonsensical fighting and flame wars in OTD, there were some dogging and putting the staff down, and when things are at least in some way (if not "the proper way") taken care of, they throw a fit bc it's "immature".
How I see all this: otd is a toy, and instead of using the toy for its ideal and intended purpose, its been used abusively. So instead of lecturing and banning that could have been done, the toy is taken away for a DAY and we're all on time out from using it as a lesson.
And some are upset that we cant use it, while some are complaining.
This post is not intended to pick fights~
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 22:50:11 GMT -5
Not here to start anything but tomo has had invisibbilty on for the past month and a half i think. he turned it off 2/3 days ago.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Sept 24, 2016 22:51:23 GMT -5
Not here to start anything but tomo has had invisibbilty on for the past month and a half i think. he turned it off 2/3 days ago. I noticed it and I think other moderators and staff had it as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 22:53:44 GMT -5
up intill yesterday we couldn't see invisble users I turned off my invisiblity b/c if I'm not on, people might be discouraged to tag/pm me
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 23:08:53 GMT -5
up intill yesterday we couldn't see invisble users I turned off my invisiblity b/c if I'm not on, people might be discouraged to tag/pm me ...What if we still want to tag you? Like if I went though the art forum and found some cute Toothless fanart and you aren't on... I shouldn't tag you? :c I'm joking just in case I need to make that clear
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 23:11:19 GMT -5
i think you really should then i love toothless artwork
its okay c: I got it
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 11:21:03 GMT -5
*trying to figure out what in the world happened*
M'kay, after reading through this thread and checking some people's current posts, I think I may have pieced together what was going on. I'd post my opinion, but I won't since I know a lot of people are feeling pretty mad right now, and I don't feel like getting chewed out by some random person. No offense to anyone, but I just am trying to figure out what's been happening, so I'll be clueless to a lot of things. I'll probably be stalking certain threads to catch info.
On a more postive note for this fake-OTD thread, I made cupcakes with my youthgroup. Here's a picture of my favorite one. <3
It's an apple in case you can't tell. (:
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