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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Nov 4, 2019 2:49:03 GMT -5
I feel like Sol and Darktail are a stretch specifically because SkyClan isn't being targeted here, actually, they seem the least involved next to RiverClan. The main cats throwing hands are ThunderClan, WindClan, and ShadowClan simply for codebreakers.
This also doesn't give reason to possessed Bramble's weird thing for Squirrel, even before he exiled her, he was weirdly obsessed with her. And then after exiling her he even sent a cat to check on her and spy. It's strange cause the way he talks to her is in a manner that he knows her. So I feel like without a doubt the one in Bramble is Ashfur, especially since he has an advantage from the grave and a belief in StarClan.
As for an accomplice, I think Sol and Darktail are interesting choices, but really don't fit the bill...there has to be some cat we're missing from this scenario. What other cat could possible gain from a situation like this....
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Post by skystorm on Nov 18, 2019 22:48:33 GMT -5
Food for thought...Don't read this comment unless you want spoilers! Does anyone else think it's the original Tigerstar? They never confirmed where his spirit went after Firestar killed him in the Last Hope and after the part where Sparkpelt went to atone and almost got killed. It continued to convince me Tigerstar might be involved. Bristlefrost went to investigate and found dead rabbits sound familiar? Tigerstar, when he was the leader of ShadowClan, did the exact same thing causing the death of Brindleface and Swiftpaw and the loss of Brightheart's eye. This cat seems to be focused on codebreakers like Tigerstar always was. An example is when he was trying to take over all the Clans he was focused on the half Clan cats once again reflecting on cats that might have broken the code. Bramblestar is also Tigerstar's son which is so easy to forget but he could also pose as someone who knew Squirrelflight well due to him being his son's mate. When he also said that she always had a soft spot for weak cats he sounded like he could be quoting Thistleclaw from when he was an apprentice and they were tormenting Scourge. This cat seems to also have a grudge against ThunderClan. They also expressed how manipulative this fake Bramblestar was being. We all know Tigerstar has the biggest grudge on ThunderClan. To me that definitely fits the OG Tigerstar. What do you guys think?
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Post by skystorm on Nov 18, 2019 22:51:34 GMT -5
Berrynose is so annoying but it's okay to anyone who likes him if you do like him!
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Nov 18, 2019 22:53:19 GMT -5
skystorm, I highly doubt it's Tigerstar. There are more signs that point to it being Ashfur. And even if it was him, then that would mean several other cats who were killed twice would have to come back as well, and this would just diminish things like Firestar's fight with him and Spottedleaf's sacrifice.
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Post by skystorm on Nov 18, 2019 22:55:00 GMT -5
Yes he is the most likely suspect due to the impostor mooning over Squirrelflight. But Ashfur is supposedly good now he truly doesn't seem like an evil cat
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#a3c5e6
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Nov 18, 2019 23:02:10 GMT -5
Yes he is the most likely suspect due to the impostor mooning over Squirrelflight. But Ashfur is supposedly good now he truly doesn't seem like an evil cat He could always be lying. Just because he seems like a good cat now doesn't mean it's genuine. Remember, this is still the same cat who conspired with Hawkfrost to kill Firestar and attempted to burn three young cats alive several moons later (one of which was his own apprentice who he tried to hurt at least twice and the other being a blind medicine cat) all because the cat he supposedly loved didn't feel the same way. It'd be completely in character for him to seem fine and then strike when the time was right. As for the way the imposter tried to kill Sparkpelt, that doesn't prove it's Tigerstar, either. If anything, this only gives more evidence that it's Ashfur, who could've just taken a page out of Tigerstar's book and tried to kill Bramblestar's daughter in a somewhat similar way Tigerstar killed his mother (that is, getting dogs involved in his plan).
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Nov 19, 2019 13:59:07 GMT -5
I know there is a high chance of it being Ashfur, but if there is a chance that it happens to be some clown we don't even know yet I'm just going to put the book down or burn it immediately.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 14:24:19 GMT -5
I know there is a high chance of it being Ashfur, but if there is a chance that it happens to be some clown we don't even know yet I'm just going to put the book down or burn it immediately. Watch it be another secret son of Tigerclawstar
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Post by halogen on Nov 19, 2019 22:13:23 GMT -5
I know there is a high chance of it being Ashfur, but if there is a chance that it happens to be some clown we don't even know yet I'm just going to put the book down or burn it immediately. But why? Fans are always complaining about the same villains (the Tigerstar family) being recycled even when they die instead of creating new villains, and gave a lot of praise to Darktail for being something new, but for some reason in this series everyone is desperate for it to be a rehash of an old villain?
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Post by vectoring34 on Nov 19, 2019 23:14:11 GMT -5
I know there is a high chance of it being Ashfur, but if there is a chance that it happens to be some clown we don't even know yet I'm just going to put the book down or burn it immediately. But why? Fans are always complaining about the same villains (the Tigerstar family) being recycled even when they die instead of creating new villains, and gave a lot of praise to Darktail for being something new, but for some reason in this series everyone is desperate for it to be a rehash of an old villain? Tigerstar got complaints because he was dragged out over four series and because he was just doing the same thing each time, along with plot points being retconned(Bramblepaw forgets Tigerstar's a lunatic?). Ashfur, on the other hand, only got a single book to shine(and shine he did) and is pulling off something totally new. Through him, a critique of Starclan is also voiced and the fact that he was let off scot-free is also remedied. In what way is Ashfur possessing someone a rehash of trying to burn people to death?
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Nov 20, 2019 1:26:37 GMT -5
I know there is a high chance of it being Ashfur, but if there is a chance that it happens to be some clown we don't even know yet I'm just going to put the book down or burn it immediately. But why? Fans are always complaining about the same villains (the Tigerstar family) being recycled even when they die instead of creating new villains, and gave a lot of praise to Darktail for being something new, but for some reason in this series everyone is desperate for it to be a rehash of an old villain? I meant it as a joke dude.
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Post by Willowmoon on Feb 19, 2020 1:38:58 GMT -5
skystorm , I highly doubt it's Tigerstar. There are more signs that point to it being Ashfur. And even if it was him, then that would mean several other cats who were killed twice would have to come back as well, and this would just diminish things like Firestar's fight with him and Spottedleaf's sacrifice. I kind of agree. Tbh I’m just so bored of tigerclawstar, I hope he's gone for good. I reckon (and hope) that the Erins wouldn’t use him YET AGAIN. I'm hoping it’s someone more interesting.
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Post by Jaysnow on Feb 19, 2020 1:42:23 GMT -5
skystorm , I highly doubt it's Tigerstar. There are more signs that point to it being Ashfur. And even if it was him, then that would mean several other cats who were killed twice would have to come back as well, and this would just diminish things like Firestar's fight with him and Spottedleaf's sacrifice. I kind of agree. Tbh I’m just so bored of tigerclawstar, I hope he's gone for good. I reckon (and hope) that the Erins wouldn’t use him YET AGAIN. I'm hoping it’s someone more interesting. This thread is months old. Please don't necropost.
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Post by Willowmoon on Feb 19, 2020 1:46:06 GMT -5
Really sorry, I didn’t realise. Maybe because it came from search results. I haven’t been on her for ages. I’ll try not to do it again.
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