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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 17:51:59 GMT -5
Which one from each clan is your least favorite? So, no Needletail, Onestar, Littlecloud, Tigerstar, or Appledusk, because they're all not alive.
For me, it's
WindClan - Crowfeather, I've just never liked this guy, he came into the series with this huge chip on his shoulder, like even before Feathertail died, he was a snippety brat, but I mean, look who his mentor was, so maybe it's not all his fault, but I still don't like him.
ThunderClan - Jayfeather, while he does have a good reason to have a huge chip on his shoulder, I really don't like the way he treated Brightheart and Longtail, and like, he's not really gotten any nicer.
RiverClan - Idk, I guess Podlight because his name is dumb? I'm just kidding, I actually like his name, I mean, at least it isn't Curlfeather. But if I had to choose a least favorite, maybe I honestly have no idea. I could say Mistystar, but I really like her.
ShadowClan - This makes me a bit sad to say, because I truly did really really like him...Tigerheartstar, for being an over aggressive hypocrite, and for not not being like Tigerclawstar.
SkyClan - I guess the bullies in Lost Stars, but they've only been in one book, so it's hard to judge them for sure, but I really don't like bullies.
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Post by Haze on Sept 16, 2019 18:27:03 GMT -5
Thunderclan - Lionblaze, I couldn't stand 2 arcs with his POV.
With the rest of the clans I am at least neutral, I used to dislike Crowfeather a lot, but his POV was amusing and I like how his arc ended.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 18:29:07 GMT -5
Thunderclan - Lionblaze, I couldn't stand 2 arcs with his POV. With the rest of the clans I am at least neutral, I used to dislike Crowfeather a lot, but his POV was amusing and I like how his arc ended. I really need to read his SE, because it seemed to make a lot of people go from disliking him to loving him. I heard he's pretty sassy in it, just like his son Breezepelt
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 18:42:47 GMT -5
ThunderClan: Ivypool. She's just too harsh for my likings and I don't like how the fandom worships her. I do like her with Fernsong though, but I was just never really fond of her and she wasn't that good of a spy to me, imo. She's fine when she's not a jerk to Dovewing. I don't care what anyone says, but yelling and cutting ties isn't the healthiest or best way to handle things. Sometimes being gentle & understanding to the person you care about is the best way to communicate if you want to get your point looked into. Screaming and being pissed isn't always the right thing to handle shit.
ShadowClan: Right now it's Scorchfur. Like I get you were stressed and worried but that's no reason to bully Rowanstar and tear out the last bit of the self-esteem he has, ugh. 0 sympathy from me. I just can't let that slide, even though I agree that Rowanstar is a shitty leader.
RiverClan: Hawkfrost, just a bland piece of cardboard. He was so damn boring to read about.
WindClan: Nightcloud. She wasn't the best mom to Breezepelt, either. Coddling isn't really the healthiest way to parent your child, and no, Crowfeather neglecting his son does not excuse Nightcloud's coddling to be any better than his own behavior. She didn't even see her own faults in CT; just blamed everything on him, which was petty. She used him, too. She's not innocent. Hell, I dislike her even more than Breezepelt; at least Breezepelt has reasons for his behavior and tried to improve himself and recognized his faults; she just straight out blames Crowfeather for everything and doesn't see her own faults about this situation.
SkyClan: I don't really dislike anyone, tbh! I even like Tree.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 18:48:04 GMT -5
ThunderClan: Ivypool. She's just too harsh for my likings and I don't like how the fandom worships her. I do like her with Fernsong though, but I was just never really fond of her and she wasn't that good of a spy to me, imo. She's fine when she's not a jerk to Dovewing. I don't care what anyone says, but yelling and cutting ties isn't the healthiest or best way to handle things. Sometimes being gentle & understanding to the person you care about is the best way to communicate if you want to get your point looked into. Screaming and being pissed isn't always the right thing to handle shit. ShadowClan: Right now it's Scorchfur. Like I get you were stressed and worried but that's no reason to bully Rowanstar and tear out the last bit of the self-esteem he has, ugh. 0 sympathy from me. I just can't let that slide, even though I agree that Rowanstar is a shitty leader. RiverClan: Hawkfrost, just a bland piece of cardboard. He was so damn boring to read about. WindClan: Nightcloud. She wasn't the best mom to Breezepelt, either. Coddling isn't really the healthiest way to parent your child, and no, Crowfeather neglecting his son does not excuse Nightcloud's coddling to be any better than his own behavior. She didn't even see her own faults in CT; just blamed everything on him, which was petty. She used him, too. She's not innocent. Hell, I dislike her even more than Breezepelt; at least Breezepelt has reasons for his behavior and tried to improve himself and recognized his faults; she just straight out blames Crowfeather for everything and doesn't see her own faults about this situation. SkyClan: I don't really dislike anyone, tbh! I even like Tree. I really like Ivypool, but I agree about screaming and getting pissed isn't always the right way to handle stuff. When someone yells and screams at me, I tune them out, and just don't even listen to them, however, if they go about it in a nice and calm way, I'll listen to them, and actually do what they say. Even though Hawkfrost is dead, I think twice dead now, I totally agree, I did not see the appeal of him at all, he was just his dumb dad's stupid puppet. I love Tree!
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Post by Haze on Sept 16, 2019 18:51:07 GMT -5
Thunderclan - Lionblaze, I couldn't stand 2 arcs with his POV. With the rest of the clans I am at least neutral, I used to dislike Crowfeather a lot, but his POV was amusing and I like how his arc ended. I really need to read his novella, because it seemed to make a lot of people go from disliking him to loving him. I heard he's pretty sassy in it, just like his son Breezepelt Crowfeather was an awful cat in his SE, just like he always was, undermining the deputy, saying things without thinking and basically calling everyone bee brain inside his mind, but it was so funny to be inside his mind and so good to see the most problematic and dysfunctional family in Warriors managing get their things sorted out.
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Post by whiteflight on Sept 16, 2019 18:54:07 GMT -5
I'm gonna try and remember who's alive and who's dead since idk anymore.
WindClan: Breezepelt. Always been hating him, plus even if he "changed" in Crowfeather's SE that won't change my mind since he seems to OOC in that book imo.
Riverclan: Don't know since idk who's alive.
Shadowclan: Dovewing. Everyone already knows the reason why since she still has a lot of hate.
Thunderclan: Bramblestar. The way he's acting now is making me sad/mad is he actually possessed or did the writers decide to change him like what they're doing to other characters? I'm just sad that one of my favorite cats turned into dump by the way he treats Squirrel.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 18:55:19 GMT -5
I really need to read his novella, because it seemed to make a lot of people go from disliking him to loving him. I heard he's pretty sassy in it, just like his son Breezepelt Crowfeather was an awful cat in his SE, just like he always was, undermining the deputy, saying things without thinking and basically calling everyone bee brain inside his mind, but it was so funny to be inside his mind and so good to see the most problematic and dysfunctional family in Warriors managing get their things sorted out. Is it bad that I got happy that someone still dislikes him? XD How dare he be mean to Harespring, who is like, the sweetest WindClan cat, except for maybe I had 20 mentors Hootwhisker (who I heard was really nice) or Kestrelflight. Or was it Slightfoot? I can't keep track of all these new characters lol That does sound pretty interesting and funny But Idk if Crowfeather is annoying and grouchy like he was in TNP, then it might get a little annoying
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 18:56:35 GMT -5
I'm gonna try and remember who's alive and who's dead since idk anymore. WindClan: Breezepelt. Always been hating him, plus even if he "changed" in Crowfeather's SE that won't change my mind since he seems to OCC. Riverclan: Don't know since idk who's alive. Shadowclan: Dovewing. Everyone already knows the reason why since she still has a lot of hate. Thunderclan: Bramblestar. The way he's acting now is making me sad/mad is he actually possessed or did the writers decide to change him like what they're doing to other characters? I'm just sad that one of my favorite cats turned into dump by the way he treats Squirrel. I still hate how Breezepelt attacked Poppyfrost and Jayfeather, and never had to own up to it. It's also bizarre how he hates Hollyleaf, Lionblaze, and Jayfeather, since it's not even their fault. I don't dislike reading about him though, because he has some of the funniest lines in the series
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Sept 16, 2019 19:27:55 GMT -5
ThunderClan: Jayfeather. Seems like he's permanently on jerk mode. WindClan: No one, surprisingly. RiverClan: Mothwing. I've never liked her or her brother, both were boring. ShadowClan: Tigerstar II. He's very aggressive. I thought Dovewing would soften him up a bit, but oh well. Dovewing is a close second. SkyClan: Sandynose and Leafstar. Sandynose was too harsh on Twigbranch and Leafstar turned out to be annoying. I liked her when SkyClan was in the gorge.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 19:31:41 GMT -5
ThunderClan: Jayfeather. Seems like he's permanently on jerk mode. WindClan: No one, surprisingly. RiverClan: Mothwing. I've never liked her or her brother, both were boring. ShadowClan: Tigerstar II. He's very aggressive. I thought Dovewing would soften him up a bit, but oh well. Dovewing is a close second. SkyClan: Sandynose and Leafstar. Sandynose was too harsh on Twigbranch and Leafstar turned out to be annoying. I liked her when SkyClan was in the gorge. I agree 100% about Jayfeather, I've never liked him, and I doubt I ever will. I don't like how Mothwing was ALWAYS messing up, and how she seemed like a helpless kit in TNP, and I also didn't like how every scene about her was about how she doesn't believe in StarClan, like, that's her ONLY character trait. She's almost as boring as Hollyleaf. I really did like her in Omen of the Stars though.
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#add8e6
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Sept 16, 2019 19:36:25 GMT -5
ThunderClan: Jayfeather. Seems like he's permanently on jerk mode. WindClan: No one, surprisingly. RiverClan: Mothwing. I've never liked her or her brother, both were boring. ShadowClan: Tigerstar II. He's very aggressive. I thought Dovewing would soften him up a bit, but oh well. Dovewing is a close second. SkyClan: Sandynose and Leafstar. Sandynose was too harsh on Twigbranch and Leafstar turned out to be annoying. I liked her when SkyClan was in the gorge. I agree 100% about Jayfeather, I've never liked him, and I doubt I ever will. I don't like how Mothwing was ALWAYS messing up, and how she seemed like a helpless kit in TNP, and I also didn't like how every scene about her was about how she doesn't believe in StarClan, like, that's her ONLY character trait. She's almost as boring as Hollyleaf. I really did like her in Omen of the Stars though. I think the reason why she messed up a lot was because she wasn't fully trained. But I agree that her messing up got old really quick. And same about her non-belief in StarClan. I also don't get the appeal besides the obvious that atheists have a character to like.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 19:39:24 GMT -5
I agree 100% about Jayfeather, I've never liked him, and I doubt I ever will. I don't like how Mothwing was ALWAYS messing up, and how she seemed like a helpless kit in TNP, and I also didn't like how every scene about her was about how she doesn't believe in StarClan, like, that's her ONLY character trait. She's almost as boring as Hollyleaf. I really did like her in Omen of the Stars though. I think the reason why she messed up a lot was because she wasn't fully trained. But I agree that her messing up got old really quick. And same about her non-belief in StarClan. I also don't get the appeal besides the obvious that atheists have a character to like. Oh yeah, I forgot about her not being fully trained. I agree, I mean, it's hard not to believe in them, when you literally fought against cats you knew when they were alive. Cloudtail is worse about this.
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#add8e6
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Sept 16, 2019 19:42:38 GMT -5
I think the reason why she messed up a lot was because she wasn't fully trained. But I agree that her messing up got old really quick. And same about her non-belief in StarClan. I also don't get the appeal besides the obvious that atheists have a character to like. Oh yeah, I forgot about her not being fully trained. I agree, I mean, it's hard not to believe in them, when you literally fought against cats you knew when they were alive. Cloudtail is worse about this. Exactly!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 19:46:27 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I forgot about her not being fully trained. I agree, I mean, it's hard not to believe in them, when you literally fought against cats you knew when they were alive. Cloudtail is worse about this. Exactly! I really don't understand, I mean, he was brought to ThunderClan before he was even weaned, raised by all the cats who believe in StarClan, who even put the idea in his head to not believe in them? Mothwing is more understandable, since she joined the clans when she was a little older, but still she probably saw her own dead brother in battle, and thought he was a rogue.
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#add8e6
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Sept 16, 2019 19:51:15 GMT -5
I really don't understand, I mean, he was brought to ThunderClan before he was even weaned, raised by all the cats who believe in StarClan, who even put the idea in his head to not believe in them? Mothwing is more understandable, since she joined the clans when she was a little older, but still she probably saw her own dead brother in battle, and thought he was a rogue. I have no idea, either. I agree that Mothwing is more understandable. It was probably around the time her brother faked that sign that she lost her belief.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 19:52:36 GMT -5
I really don't understand, I mean, he was brought to ThunderClan before he was even weaned, raised by all the cats who believe in StarClan, who even put the idea in his head to not believe in them? Mothwing is more understandable, since she joined the clans when she was a little older, but still she probably saw her own dead brother in battle, and thought he was a rogue. I have no idea, either. I agree that Mothwing is more understandable. It was probably around the time her brother faked that sign that she lost her belief. Yeah, I heard that's when it was, that's really sad actually
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#add8e6
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*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Sept 16, 2019 19:59:10 GMT -5
I have no idea, either. I agree that Mothwing is more understandable. It was probably around the time her brother faked that sign that she lost her belief. Yeah, I heard that's when it was, that's really sad actually Such a tragedy. ):
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Post by Neekwanakwaki (Cloud) on Sept 16, 2019 22:17:49 GMT -5
ThunderClan: Geez, where do I even begin with this one? There's quite a few characters in this Clan I dislike. For now I would have to say Bramblestar because of the way he treats Squirrelflight. I don't like her much either but she doesn't deserve half the shit her mate gives her. They shouldn't even be mates. Anymore. At all. They're too toxic for each other, all they do is just argue.
RiverClan: Willowshine, I don't care to explain.
ShadowClan: Both Tigerstar 2.0 and Scorchfur are shit, just plain shit.
WindClan: Breezepelt. I don't care much for his half ass redemption.
SkyClan: I don't dislike a single cat in this Clan that's currently alive.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Sept 16, 2019 22:34:29 GMT -5
ThunderClan: Tie between Blossomfall, Bramblestar, & Thornclaw SkyClan: None atm RiverClan: Mistystar WindClan: Breezepelt ShadowClan: Tie between Dovewing, Tigerstar, & Scorchfur
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Post by Showers on Sept 17, 2019 4:45:27 GMT -5
Thunderclan: bramblestar Windclan: harestar maybe Shadowclan: tigerstar (maybe dovewing lol) Riverclan: mistystar Skyclan: probably rootpaw's mentor, dewsomething ?? his personality is slightly annoying i guess
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 17, 2019 6:21:01 GMT -5
ThunderClan: At the moment it's a tie between Rosepetal and Bramblestar. Rosepetal is too hot-headed, and I don't like that she's getting so many apprentices, she's not leader material at her. And Bramblestar, whereas I sympathize with him to a degree, he's still an incompetent leader. Other cats deserve apprentices over Rosepetal, she's becoming the new Cloudtail as a default mentor. I'm also not big on her and Bristlefrost, it still annoys me with how she dragged her the way she did, and how impatient she was. And Bramblestar, I get he's leader, but honestly, I don't think it was the best idea of having his mate be his deputy as well. There are too many conflictions. I'd add Jayfeather to this list if not for him being upset over Leafpool's death.
ShadowClan: Dovewing, because she's a traitor to her former clan and an utter hypocrite. She put unborn kits in danger and also manipulated her own mate, she doesn't deserve any sympathy or soft treatment, especially when she trash talks her former clanmates. Tawny even notes how practically useless she was when she first showed up in ShadowClan, she's the reason why ShadowClan collapsed in on it'self easily the second time. I almost pity Tigerheart for having to put up with someone as gross as her, and honestly, their kits aren't doing them any favors either. One is as incompetent and naive as their own mother and the other two are void of any personality at all, their whole family is boring.
RiverClan: Both Mistystar and Reedwhisker annoy me, they're both my least favorite cats in this clan currently, to be honest. And only reason really is because Mistystar is a boring and old leader while Reedwhisker is a boring and old deputy. Both have either little to no personality, and barely have any screen time in the first place. Mistystar is now the oldest leader in the entire series, who should have been died ages ago, while Reedwhisker is straight-up elder status at this point. We don't get to see much of the RiverClan cats anymore, and what we actually see is barely anything at all. They're my favorite clan so it's disappointing to see how they've been handled this far into the series, especially compared to the earlier books.
WindClan: Most of my least favorite cats from this clan are already dead, I'm looking at you Onestar, you incompetent annoying trashy furball. So I guess that leaves me Crowfeather. However I don't hate him, I just think he didn't deserve to be deputy. I guess Harestar is picking a more experienced and older cat to help him lead, I get that, but I don't think Crowfeather was the best choice. Especially because of his past and all the problems he's caused. He's not my main focus of displeasure though, because Harestar is a good and reasonable leader, and younger too, so I doubt Crowfeather will live long enough to make it to leadership anyways.
SkyClan: This clan probably has the least amount of problematic cats...like...none at all come to mind. I would have said Finleap, but he's in TC now and still trash. So I guess I have no picks for them.
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Post by Kibui on Sept 17, 2019 7:15:30 GMT -5
ThunderClan: Daisy
RiverClan: Mothwing... I guess? Most of the cats there are cardboards anyway unfortunately
ShadowClan: Dovewing
SkyClan: Tree
WindClan: Breezepelt
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 9:35:03 GMT -5
✲ριкαƒυєу✲I don't think I've ever seen Thornclaw on someone's dislike list ShowersDewspring? What don't you like about Dewspring?
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Post by kinkajou on Sept 17, 2019 18:58:44 GMT -5
ThunderClan: Bramblestar ShadowClan: Scorchfur and Tigerheart SkyClan: Tree WindClan: Breezepelt RiverClan: I don't like Lakeheart's fake kits existing so them I guess
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 19:21:59 GMT -5
ThunderClan: Bramblestar ShadowClan: Scorchfur and Tigerheart SkyClan: Tree WindClan: Breezepelt RiverClan: I don't like Lakeheart's fake kits existing so them I guess Lol, the weird thing is...two of her kits have WindClan names. Here's the story about what I think happened. Lakeheart was like, "Hey can you be a dear and watch the kits while I hang out with Petalfur and Beetlewhisker?" And then Lizardtail was like, "Kay." Then, he turned his back for two seconds, and Cypresspaw and Wavepaw were gone! And for some reason, there was two other kits there that he'd never seen before, so he thought, 'Oh, awesome, Lakeheart isn't going to be mad.' But then, Lakeheart came back, and she was like, "Where are the other two?" And Lizardtail said. "Um,they went to go make dirt, they'll be back soon." Then, he announced that he had to go make dirt as well, and he quickly raced out of camp, and met up with his WindClan mate Hootwhisker, and they concocted a plan, and took two WindClan kits, Harelight and Gorseclaw, so that Lakeheart wouldn't know. To this day, Lakeheart, and the rest of RiverClan, still don't know the truth.
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Post by Showers on Sept 18, 2019 5:11:54 GMT -5
Showers Dewspring? What don't you like about Dewspring? i don't don't like him, he's just my least liked character because i can't really think of anyone else i dislike in skyclan. his interactions with rootpaw were annoying in lost star's tho.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 18, 2019 8:03:01 GMT -5
Showers Dewspring? What don't you like about Dewspring? i don't don't like him, he's just my least liked character because i can't really think of anyone else i dislike in skyclan. his interactions with rootpaw were annoying in lost star's tho. To be fair, Dewspring was embarrassed because of Rootpaw's strange behavior. An apprentice's actions are usually reflected by their mentor's teachings. Rootpaw was being incredibly unusual but Dew didn't know why. But as the readers, we did know, and I doubt Root would tell Dew the truth. Would be ooc, because he wouldn't want an even more of a reason to seem strange in his clan.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 8:30:07 GMT -5
Showers ❅Maplefrost❅Did I miss something? Dewspring seemed like a normal mentor to me, just someone who got a little annoyed, that his apprentice wasn't paying attention
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Sept 18, 2019 10:39:21 GMT -5
Showers ❅Maplefrost❅ Did I miss something? Dewspring seemed like a normal mentor to me, just someone who got a little annoyed, that his apprentice wasn't paying attention He is pretty normal for a mentor. It's just that Rootpaw was acting unusual and ended up embarrassing him not only in front of their clanmates but also a ThunderClan patrol. Although it's not inherently harmful, it does make sense for Dew to be concerned, confused and embarrassed by his apprentice's spontaneous behavior.
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