|
Post by hazelstar on Aug 15, 2019 18:41:37 GMT -5
I really, REALLY do not like Bramblestar in this preview. I was always neutral on him, but now, I'm not so sure...
|
|
|
Post by Smokyyy on Aug 15, 2019 19:44:44 GMT -5
Just a interesting thought here. What if Squirrel ends up having another batch of kits with Bramblestar except he's possessed and she ends up finding out that he's possessed while she's pregnant so when she has the kits they end up looking like the possessor (Probably Ashfur) instead of Bramblestar. Just thinking about that rubs me the wrong way
|
|
|
Post by hazelstar on Aug 15, 2019 19:47:16 GMT -5
Just a interesting thought here. What if Squirrel ends up having another batch of kits with Bramblestar except he's possessed and she ends up finding out that he's possessed while she's pregnant so when she has the kits they end up looking like the possessor (Probably Ashfur) instead of Bramblestar. Just thinking about that rubs me the wrong way I made a similar hilarious comment about that earlier, lol. I kind of want to see it to be honest, even though it was a joke XD
|
|
foxstep
loves squirrelflight way too much
|
Post by foxstep on Aug 15, 2019 19:48:16 GMT -5
Just a interesting thought here. What if Squirrel ends up having another batch of kits with Bramblestar except he's possessed and she ends up finding out that he's possessed while she's pregnant so when she has the kits they end up looking like the possessor (Probably Ashfur) instead of Bramblestar. Just thinking about that rubs me the wrong way
Oof, that would be crazy. Seriously speaking, the Erins probably wouldn't go there, that's just beyond disturbing. But then again, they have been full of surprises these past few years :/
|
|
|
Post by hazelstar on Aug 15, 2019 19:52:20 GMT -5
Just a interesting thought here. What if Squirrel ends up having another batch of kits with Bramblestar except he's possessed and she ends up finding out that he's possessed while she's pregnant so when she has the kits they end up looking like the possessor (Probably Ashfur) instead of Bramblestar. Just thinking about that rubs me the wrong way
Oof, that would be crazy. Seriously speaking, the Erins probably wouldn't go there, that's just beyond disturbing. But then again, they have been full of surprises these past few years :/
What do you mean by surprises? And I think they could potentially go through with this idea, LOL We will just have to wait out the agony to find out between release dates XD
|
|
foxstep
loves squirrelflight way too much
|
Post by foxstep on Aug 15, 2019 20:04:09 GMT -5
Oof, that would be crazy. Seriously speaking, the Erins probably wouldn't go there, that's just beyond disturbing. But then again, they have been full of surprises these past few years :/
What do you mean by surprises? And I think they could potentially go through with this idea, LOL We will just have to wait out the agony to find out between release dates XD
*cough* Spottedleaf's Heart *cough* (Just kidding, I know that was on Vicky, not the new team but it goes to show the heights of horror Warriors can reach )
Yep. If it does happen, I'd be horrified and die of laughter at the same time XDD
|
|
|
Post by hazelstar on Aug 15, 2019 20:15:33 GMT -5
What do you mean by surprises? And I think they could potentially go through with this idea, LOL We will just have to wait out the agony to find out between release dates XD
*cough* Spottedleaf's Heart *cough* (Just kidding, I know that was on Vicky, not the new team but it goes to show the heights of horror Warriors can reach )
Yep. If it does happen, I'd be horrified and die of laughter at the same time XDD
I honestly didn't think SH was tooooooo bad, it was pretty vague. But yeah, I honestly almost forgot that book existed XD Same here, lol
|
|
|
Post by Mistybreeze on Aug 15, 2019 22:11:48 GMT -5
I was only able to read up to finding the camp before my browser crashed and I didn't feel like rebooting it.
First off, Squirrelflight going off and doing her own thing? Classic.
And once again, poor SkyClan. The generational pain is very obvious.
Yay kits! Well, there goes all my theories on Kite and Turtle. But please, please let their father be MacGyver or Sagenose. Both deserve kits, and Harrybrook is definitely Bellaleaf's mate. And newsflash, meeting their niece and nephew is going to turn a warrior against their Clan, Bramblestar. Sandynose pulled this same bull in DN. And wow, I was not expecting Wrenkit to be so old. Maybe we'll get to meet her siblings?
Nice innuendo there Kate (Kate wrote this one, right?) It appears that Sparkpelt's kits will be an important plot point. My theory is that Larksong will die before the kits are born, Sparkpelt has a breakdown over it, and Squirrelflight steps to help. So Squirrelflight gets "her" kits after all.
The new territory is even cooler than I remember.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 22:26:11 GMT -5
I was only able to read up to finding the camp before my browser crashed and I didn't feel like rebooting it. First off, Squirrelflight going off and doing her own thing? Classic. And once again, poor SkyClan. The generational pain is very obvious. Yay kits! Well, there goes all my theories on Kite and Turtle. But please, please let their father be MacGyver or Sagenose. Both deserve kits, and Harrybrook is definitely Bellaleaf's mate. And newsflash, meeting their niece and nephew is going to turn a warrior against their Clan, Bramblestar. Sandynose pulled this same bull in DN. And wow, I was not expecting Wrenkit to be so old. Maybe we'll get to meet her siblings? Nice innuendo there Kate (Kate wrote this one, right?) It appears that Sparkpelt's kits will be an important plot point. My theory is that Larksong will die before the kits are born, Sparkpelt has a breakdown over it, and Squirrelflight steps to help. So Squirrelflight gets "her" kits after all. The new territory is even cooler than I remember. Sagenose has kits, he's Fidgetflake's father Or did you mean someone else?
|
|
|
Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Aug 15, 2019 22:57:19 GMT -5
Idk, it's fine is couples have disagreements, not all relationships are rainbows and sunshine. And you have to keep in mind that Bramble is both her mate and her leader. I don't think one disagreement suddenly makes their relationship toxic, and that's coming from someone who prefers StormSquirrel and BrambleFeather. its not just one disagreement though. Right now they're fighting about two things, Skyclan and the kits. I don't blame Bramble for not wanting for kits but he's definitely being really mean, and saying something like "cats could die because of you" is toxic. All she did was make a suggestion. the only time Bramble and Squirrel seemed to have a healthy relationship was after the 3 were born, before the secret came out. in TNP they were always arguing and unhappy with each other, in BrS bramble started chasing after another girl. and now this. it really is unhealthy imo and this preview makes me so sad and uncomfortable because he's yelling at her and lashing out for no reason? for making a suggestion and wanting kits? its just not a good situation and squirrel deserves better imo. btw I don't hate bramblestar, I actually do like him, but he is being so unnecessarily aggressive right now But as a leader what he's saying IS true. Cats can die. And honestly more deaths ISN'T what SkyClan, of all clans, needs right now. They're taking a chance, and risking territory that's rarely ever visited or touched by the other clans that have been here much longer. It makes sense for them to be defensive and upset because they're practically being pushed out of their home, yet again. From Squirrelflight's point of view, it may seem like the right idea, but from a leader point of view it can spell potential danger. A leader carries all the lives of their clanmates in their paws, just like a medicine cat does when they're treating them. It's weight they will carry. Who knows how the rest of SkyClan will even react to the change, who knows what cats die in the process. Heck maybe this is how certain cats who are confirmed dead in TBC die. Because of the choice to move. Wasted prey and land shouldn't really be prioritized over actual lives of other cats. So honestly, Bramble does have a point. During BrS they weren't even together, as much as I disliked Jessy, and hated Bramble for chasing after her, he had a right to move on and find another potential mate if he wanted to. Squirrelflight did lie to him, and obviously that hurt him, he forgave her, and they just happened to rekindled their relationship. He has a right to choose who he wants to be with, and same with Squirrel vice versa and in the end he chose Squirrelflight again. He's not yelling at her, or lashing out for no reason, when clearly there IS an issue here, a conflict. He's not wrong, they didn't look united at all, he is the leader, and she is the deputy. Yes she had a right to her own opinion, but he did bring up a good point that they should have discussed things first in private. Bramblestar only wants what's right for his clan, and SkyClan, so does Squirrelflight, but they're going about it with two different views. That's not toxic. It's fine to have different opinions just like it's fine for them to have a right to those different opinions. Just because something is from Squirrelflight's POV doesn't mean she's always right. She was more upset about him not having kits than him disagreeing with her about moving SkyClan. And I personally don't even care nor like Bramblestar, and I do sympathize with Squirrelflight, but that doesn't mean Bramblestar is in the wrong here, or only at least.
|
|
|
Post by Mistybreeze on Aug 15, 2019 23:13:05 GMT -5
I was only able to read up to finding the camp before my browser crashed and I didn't feel like rebooting it. First off, Squirrelflight going off and doing her own thing? Classic. And once again, poor SkyClan. The generational pain is very obvious. Yay kits! Well, there goes all my theories on Kite and Turtle. But please, please let their father be MacGyver or Sagenose. Both deserve kits, and Harrybrook is definitely Bellaleaf's mate. And newsflash, meeting their niece and nephew is going to turn a warrior against their Clan, Bramblestar. Sandynose pulled this same bull in DN. And wow, I was not expecting Wrenkit to be so old. Maybe we'll get to meet her siblings? Nice innuendo there Kate (Kate wrote this one, right?) It appears that Sparkpelt's kits will be an important plot point. My theory is that Larksong will die before the kits are born, Sparkpelt has a breakdown over it, and Squirrelflight steps to help. So Squirrelflight gets "her" kits after all. The new territory is even cooler than I remember. Sagenose has kits, he's Fidgetflake's father Or did you mean someone else? I mean more kits. Kits that he can train and hunt with. He deserves a second chance after the grief he personally endured.
|
|
|
Post by alphayamergo on Aug 15, 2019 23:50:06 GMT -5
SquirrelBramble might not come out that great in this SE, but at least I've still got Leafpool and Squirrelflight being pure, wholesome sisters to tide myself over.
|
|
|
Post by chimken nugget on Aug 15, 2019 23:53:56 GMT -5
its not just one disagreement though. Right now they're fighting about two things, Skyclan and the kits. I don't blame Bramble for not wanting for kits but he's definitely being really mean, and saying something like "cats could die because of you" is toxic. All she did was make a suggestion. the only time Bramble and Squirrel seemed to have a healthy relationship was after the 3 were born, before the secret came out. in TNP they were always arguing and unhappy with each other, in BrS bramble started chasing after another girl. and now this. it really is unhealthy imo and this preview makes me so sad and uncomfortable because he's yelling at her and lashing out for no reason? for making a suggestion and wanting kits? its just not a good situation and squirrel deserves better imo. btw I don't hate bramblestar, I actually do like him, but he is being so unnecessarily aggressive right now But as a leader what he's saying IS true. Cats can die. And honestly more deaths ISN'T what SkyClan, of all clans, needs right now. They're taking a chance, and risking territory that's rarely ever visited or touched by the other clans that have been here much longer. It makes sense for them to be defensive and upset because they're practically being pushed out of their home, yet again. From Squirrelflight's point of view, it may seem like the right idea, but from a leader point of view it can spell potential danger. A leader carries all the lives of their clanmates in their paws, just like a medicine cat does when they're treating them. It's weight they will carry. Who knows how the rest of SkyClan will even react to the change, who knows what cats die in the process. Heck maybe this is how certain cats who are confirmed dead in TBC die. Because of the choice to move. Wasted prey and land shouldn't really be prioritized over actual lives of other cats. So honestly, Bramble does have a point. During BrS they weren't even together, as much as I disliked Jessy, and hated Bramble for chasing after her, he had a right to move on and find another potential mate if he wanted to. Squirrelflight did lie to him, and obviously that hurt him, he forgave her, and they just happened to rekindled their relationship. He has a right to choose who he wants to be with, and same with Squirrel vice versa and in the end he chose Squirrelflight again. He's not yelling at her, or lashing out for no reason, when clearly there IS an issue here, a conflict. He's not wrong, they didn't look united at all, he is the leader, and she is the deputy. Yes she had a right to her own opinion, but he did bring up a good point that they should have discussed things first in private. Bramblestar only wants what's right for his clan, and SkyClan, so does Squirrelflight, but they're going about it with two different views. That's not toxic. It's fine to have different opinions just like it's fine for them to have a right to those different opinions. Just because something is from Squirrelflight's POV doesn't mean she's always right. She was more upset about him not having kits than him disagreeing with her about moving SkyClan. And I personally don't even care nor like Bramblestar, and I do sympathize with Squirrelflight, but that doesn't mean Bramblestar is in the wrong here, or only at least. That’s true, it was just an argument and I can see where they’re both coming from. But Bramblestar acted like there was something else bothering him as well, something he didn’t tell Squirrelflight about. Either it’s just written like that or he received a prophecy that he isn’t telling anyone because what is communication in the Warriors world
|
|
|
Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Aug 16, 2019 0:01:29 GMT -5
its not just one disagreement though. Right now they're fighting about two things, Skyclan and the kits. I don't blame Bramble for not wanting for kits but he's definitely being really mean, and saying something like "cats could die because of you" is toxic. All she did was make a suggestion.
the only time Bramble and Squirrel seemed to have a healthy relationship was after the 3 were born, before the secret came out. in TNP they were always arguing and unhappy with each other, in BrS bramble started chasing after another girl. and now this. it really is unhealthy imo and this preview makes me so sad and uncomfortable because he's yelling at her and lashing out for no reason? for making a suggestion and wanting kits? its just not a good situation and squirrel deserves better imo. btw I don't hate bramblestar, I actually do like him, but he is being so unnecessarily aggressive right now But as a leader what he's saying IS true.
Cats can die. And honestly more deaths ISN'T what SkyClan, of all clans, needs right now. They're taking a chance, and risking territory that's rarely ever visited or touched by the other clans that have been here much longer. It makes sense for them to be defensive and upset because they're practically being pushed out of their home, yet again. From Squirrelflight's point of view, it may seem like the right idea, but from a leader point of view it can spell potential danger.
A leader carries all the lives of their clanmates in their paws, just like a medicine cat does when they're treating them. It's weight they will carry. Who knows how the rest of SkyClan will even react to the change, who knows what cats die in the process. Heck maybe this is how certain cats who are confirmed dead in TBC die. Because of the choice to move. Wasted prey and land shouldn't really be prioritized over actual lives of other cats.
So honestly, Bramble does have a point.
During BrS they weren't even together, as much as I disliked Jessy, and hated Bramble for chasing after her, he had a right to move on and find another potential mate if he wanted to. Squirrelflight did lie to him, and obviously that hurt him, he forgave her, and they just happened to rekindled their relationship. He has a right to choose who he wants to be with, and same with Squirrel vice versa and in the end he chose Squirrelflight again.
He's not yelling at her, or lashing out for no reason, when clearly there IS an issue here, a conflict. He's not wrong, they didn't look united at all, he is the leader, and she is the deputy. Yes she had a right to her own opinion, but he did bring up a good point that they should have discussed things first in private. Bramblestar only wants what's right for his clan, and SkyClan, so does Squirrelflight, but they're going about it with two different views.
That's not toxic. It's fine to have different opinions just like it's fine for them to have a right to those different opinions. Just because something is from Squirrelflight's POV doesn't mean she's always right. She was more upset about him not having kits than him disagreeing with her about moving SkyClan.
And I personally don't even care nor like Bramblestar, and I do sympathize with Squirrelflight, but that doesn't mean Bramblestar is in the wrong here, or only at least. I read more of the chapters, and lol and behold, Leafpool literally repeating the same logic as Bramblestar. It's true, SkyClan has been through enough already, and it feels like no one is on their side anymore. ShadowClan has been nothing but jerks to them, and now River and Wind are making it worse. I agree with Leaf that it's nice to know at least one leader is on their side. On the other hand it's interesting how Leafpool noticed if they had an argument, Squirrel and Bramble, because it's awkward to see Squirrelflight sleeping in the warriors den since she's usually always in Bramblestar's den. I like that they acknowledged the three as Squirrelflights kits and how she mothered two litters already. As much as I feel bad for her, I do think that Bramble shouldn't be obligated to have more kits right now if he's not ready. Especially with the current situation going on right now, there's too much high tension. Leafpool is amazing at being the voice of reason, honestly this book is making me like her even more. "Slow down and let things happen naturally.” StarClan Bless, Leafpool content is good tonight. Squirrelflight sneaking out to go to SkyClan. *sigh* Tree patrolling, and then asking how Twigbranch is doing, this is cute. It makes me happy to know he still cares about his sister in law. But I find it ironic that Squirrelflight wonders if he'll ever understand the code when she's literally sneaking around and breaking rules herself. Not to mention using her status as deputy like a perk. The kits are super cute and Tree is a great father, and I'm happy to see Macgyver. The generational pain is so obvious in SkyClan....I feel so bad for them. Leafpool was right, Squirrelflight really did stir a bee nest. Leafstar is a good leader, she really is putting her clan before herself, and I like that. I think it's nice to see her willing to go to a place dangerous beyond her territory just to make sure it's safe for her clan to move into it. It's quite honorable. And she doesn't want to cause any panic among her other cats, she really just wants what's best for them. Going back to the gorge would be a dangerous move because it would be a long and unsafe journey, when she was going to do it before, it really was a last option method, because she cares about the good of her clan. She's already lost so many friends, kin, and others under her already, it makes sense she doesn't want to lose more. She's ready to sacrifice her own lives to protect those she has left. Her pain is so heavy, she really is strong for still being able to keep going. It's respectable. Hawkwing's moment with Squirreflight hurt...I know she's doing this because she feels it's right, but Hawk losing his mate is a reminder of the possibilities that could happen in the dangerous unknown. Squirrelflight being honest about what she's doing with her daughter, but not her leader. LOL. But it's nice to see her have a mother and daughter moment with Sparkpelt. Honestly I'm still not into the idea of Splark (gross) but I'm kinda glad the Erins axed Lark later. Hopefully Sparkpelt gets a second mate, I kinda wanna see younger cats moving on with new (and hopefully a better)love interest. Also, Leafstar's change in personality because of the events in HJ to now is nice. I like the change. Wow, Moonlight and the Sisters are ripped, Nightcloud has competition. I liked the Sisters until they decided to keep Leaf and Squirrel as captives for a few moons....yikes. Ya know...a lot of this trouble could have been avoided if Squirrelflight hadn't been so eager to move SkyClan. But at least Sparkpelt knows where her mother is, eventually Bramblestar will find out. But man....it's gonna be utterly embarrassing.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 6:43:20 GMT -5
Sagenose has kits, he's Fidgetflake's father Or did you mean someone else? I mean more kits. Kits that he can train and hunt with. He deserves a second chance after the grief he personally endured. Ohh okay, yeah, that's true
|
|
Bisexual
#ffc5c5
Official Queen of Fan Clans
Name Colour
ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁
Official ThunderClan & ElmClan Leader
Easing back in
|
Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Aug 16, 2019 7:46:21 GMT -5
So far this is sounding like it's going to butcher Squirrel. People are getting upset about her wanting kits and how she should respect Bramble. I honestly think he shouldn't downright deny her but tell her they'd talk about it later. I hate the idea of how one party has to fold for the other and how having a mate and kits is always looked down upon. Compromises exist. I can get Squirrelflight wanting more kits because each litter had major downsides. The Three hated Squirrelflight for the longest time and Leafpool tried to wedge herself in there, she lost two of a four kit litter. Everyone is okay when a background character having a lot of kits but a main character or former main character can't?
|
|
|
Post by sageheart on Aug 16, 2019 8:07:25 GMT -5
But as a leader what he's saying IS true.
Cats can die. And honestly more deaths ISN'T what SkyClan, of all clans, needs right now. They're taking a chance, and risking territory that's rarely ever visited or touched by the other clans that have been here much longer. It makes sense for them to be defensive and upset because they're practically being pushed out of their home, yet again. From Squirrelflight's point of view, it may seem like the right idea, but from a leader point of view it can spell potential danger.
A leader carries all the lives of their clanmates in their paws, just like a medicine cat does when they're treating them. It's weight they will carry. Who knows how the rest of SkyClan will even react to the change, who knows what cats die in the process. Heck maybe this is how certain cats who are confirmed dead in TBC die. Because of the choice to move. Wasted prey and land shouldn't really be prioritized over actual lives of other cats.
So honestly, Bramble does have a point.
During BrS they weren't even together, as much as I disliked Jessy, and hated Bramble for chasing after her, he had a right to move on and find another potential mate if he wanted to. Squirrelflight did lie to him, and obviously that hurt him, he forgave her, and they just happened to rekindled their relationship. He has a right to choose who he wants to be with, and same with Squirrel vice versa and in the end he chose Squirrelflight again.
He's not yelling at her, or lashing out for no reason, when clearly there IS an issue here, a conflict. He's not wrong, they didn't look united at all, he is the leader, and she is the deputy. Yes she had a right to her own opinion, but he did bring up a good point that they should have discussed things first in private. Bramblestar only wants what's right for his clan, and SkyClan, so does Squirrelflight, but they're going about it with two different views.
That's not toxic. It's fine to have different opinions just like it's fine for them to have a right to those different opinions. Just because something is from Squirrelflight's POV doesn't mean she's always right. She was more upset about him not having kits than him disagreeing with her about moving SkyClan.
And I personally don't even care nor like Bramblestar, and I do sympathize with Squirrelflight, but that doesn't mean Bramblestar is in the wrong here, or only at least. I read more of the chapters, and lol and behold, Leafpool literally repeating the same logic as Bramblestar. It's true, SkyClan has been through enough already, and it feels like no one is on their side anymore. ShadowClan has been nothing but jerks to them, and now River and Wind are making it worse. I agree with Leaf that it's nice to know at least one leader is on their side. On the other hand it's interesting how Leafpool noticed if they had an argument, Squirrel and Bramble, because it's awkward to see Squirrelflight sleeping in the warriors den since she's usually always in Bramblestar's den. I like that they acknowledged the three as Squirrelflights kits and how she mothered two litters already. As much as I feel bad for her, I do think that Bramble shouldn't be obligated to have more kits right now if he's not ready. Especially with the current situation going on right now, there's too much high tension. Leafpool is amazing at being the voice of reason, honestly this book is making me like her even more. "Slow down and let things happen naturally.” StarClan Bless, Leafpool content is good tonight. Squirrelflight sneaking out to go to SkyClan. *sigh* Tree patrolling, and then asking how Twigbranch is doing, this is cute. It makes me happy to know he still cares about his sister in law. But I find it ironic that Squirrelflight wonders if he'll ever understand the code when she's literally sneaking around and breaking rules herself. Not to mention using her status as deputy like a perk. The kits are super cute and Tree is a great father, and I'm happy to see Macgyver. The generational pain is so obvious in SkyClan....I feel so bad for them. Leafpool was right, Squirrelflight really did stir a bee nest. Leafstar is a good leader, she really is putting her clan before herself, and I like that. I think it's nice to see her willing to go to a place dangerous beyond her territory just to make sure it's safe for her clan to move into it. It's quite honorable. And she doesn't want to cause any panic among her other cats, she really just wants what's best for them. Going back to the gorge would be a dangerous move because it would be a long and unsafe journey, when she was going to do it before, it really was a last option method, because she cares about the good of her clan. She's already lost so many friends, kin, and others under her already, it makes sense she doesn't want to lose more. She's ready to sacrifice her own lives to protect those she has left. Her pain is so heavy, she really is strong for still being able to keep going. It's respectable. Hawkwing's moment with Squirreflight hurt...I know she's doing this because she feels it's right, but Hawk losing his mate is a reminder of the possibilities that could happen in the dangerous unknown. Squirrelflight being honest about what she's doing with her daughter, but not her leader. LOL. But it's nice to see her have a mother and daughter moment with Sparkpelt. Honestly I'm still not into the idea of Splark (gross) but I'm kinda glad the Erins axed Lark later. Hopefully Sparkpelt gets a second mate, I kinda wanna see younger cats moving on with new (and hopefully a better)love interest. Also, Leafstar's change in personality because of the events in HJ to now is nice. I like the change. Wow, Moonlight and the Sisters are ripped, Nightcloud has competition. I liked the Sisters until they decided to keep Leaf and Squirrel as captives for a few moons....yikes. Ya know...a lot of this trouble could have been avoided if Squirrelflight hadn't been so eager to move SkyClan. But at least Sparkpelt knows where her mother is, eventually Bramblestar will find out. But man....it's gonna be utterly embarrassing. Where did you find your preview? Could you link it if possible? The ones I have seen don’t include her going to SkyClan
|
|
foxstep
loves squirrelflight way too much
|
Post by foxstep on Aug 16, 2019 8:57:17 GMT -5
I read more of the chapters, and lol and behold, Leafpool literally repeating the same logic as Bramblestar. It's true, SkyClan has been through enough already, and it feels like no one is on their side anymore. ShadowClan has been nothing but jerks to them, and now River and Wind are making it worse. I agree with Leaf that it's nice to know at least one leader is on their side. On the other hand it's interesting how Leafpool noticed if they had an argument, Squirrel and Bramble, because it's awkward to see Squirrelflight sleeping in the warriors den since she's usually always in Bramblestar's den. I like that they acknowledged the three as Squirrelflights kits and how she mothered two litters already. As much as I feel bad for her, I do think that Bramble shouldn't be obligated to have more kits right now if he's not ready. Especially with the current situation going on right now, there's too much high tension. Leafpool is amazing at being the voice of reason, honestly this book is making me like her even more. "Slow down and let things happen naturally.” StarClan Bless, Leafpool content is good tonight. Squirrelflight sneaking out to go to SkyClan. *sigh* Tree patrolling, and then asking how Twigbranch is doing, this is cute. It makes me happy to know he still cares about his sister in law. But I find it ironic that Squirrelflight wonders if he'll ever understand the code when she's literally sneaking around and breaking rules herself. Not to mention using her status as deputy like a perk. The kits are super cute and Tree is a great father, and I'm happy to see Macgyver. The generational pain is so obvious in SkyClan....I feel so bad for them. Leafpool was right, Squirrelflight really did stir a bee nest. Leafstar is a good leader, she really is putting her clan before herself, and I like that. I think it's nice to see her willing to go to a place dangerous beyond her territory just to make sure it's safe for her clan to move into it. It's quite honorable. And she doesn't want to cause any panic among her other cats, she really just wants what's best for them. Going back to the gorge would be a dangerous move because it would be a long and unsafe journey, when she was going to do it before, it really was a last option method, because she cares about the good of her clan. She's already lost so many friends, kin, and others under her already, it makes sense she doesn't want to lose more. She's ready to sacrifice her own lives to protect those she has left. Her pain is so heavy, she really is strong for still being able to keep going. It's respectable. Hawkwing's moment with Squirreflight hurt...I know she's doing this because she feels it's right, but Hawk losing his mate is a reminder of the possibilities that could happen in the dangerous unknown. Squirrelflight being honest about what she's doing with her daughter, but not her leader. LOL. But it's nice to see her have a mother and daughter moment with Sparkpelt. Honestly I'm still not into the idea of Splark (gross) but I'm kinda glad the Erins axed Lark later. Hopefully Sparkpelt gets a second mate, I kinda wanna see younger cats moving on with new (and hopefully a better)love interest. Also, Leafstar's change in personality because of the events in HJ to now is nice. I like the change. Wow, Moonlight and the Sisters are ripped, Nightcloud has competition. I liked the Sisters until they decided to keep Leaf and Squirrel as captives for a few moons....yikes. Ya know...a lot of this trouble could have been avoided if Squirrelflight hadn't been so eager to move SkyClan. But at least Sparkpelt knows where her mother is, eventually Bramblestar will find out. But man....it's gonna be utterly embarrassing. Where did you find your preview? Could you link it if possible? The ones I have seen don’t include her going to SkyClan
issuu.com/harpercollinschildrensbooks/docs/warriors_super_edition_-_squirrelflight_s_hope
|
|
foxstep
loves squirrelflight way too much
|
Post by foxstep on Aug 16, 2019 9:02:54 GMT -5
The whole sneaking off to SkyClan is so cringey and embarrassing. The fact that they got captured makes her look like a complete idiot, not to mention that she's the Clan deputy. Like...I'd get it for any new warrior trying to prove their worth but for Squirrelflight, it just doesn't fit in. Her rebellious days are over and she's stressed following the rules many times since she became an adult.
I'd understand her doing something that pertains to her mid-life crisis or legacy since that's what they talked about but nooo, she does something so out of line that it makes her look like the idiot who should've shut her mouth and listened to her leader all along. Ugh.
Edit: My problem is with her being written this way, not with her. She has valid opinions and needs and I just hate that she's being painted as a fool for having them and acting out in the wrong way.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 9:04:38 GMT -5
So far this is sounding like it's going to butcher Squirrel. People are getting upset about her wanting kits and how she should respect Bramble. I honestly think he shouldn't downright deny her but tell her they'd talk about it later. I hate the idea of how one party has to fold for the other and how having a mate and kits is always looked down upon. Compromises exist. I can get Squirrelflight wanting more kits because each litter had major downsides. The Three hated Squirrelflight for the longest time and Leafpool tried to wedge herself in there, she lost two of a four kit litter. Everyone is okay when a background character having a lot of kits but a main character or former main character can't? Aren't people comparing Squirrelflight to Finleap right now? Not on here, but other parts of social media.
|
|
Bisexual
#ffc5c5
Official Queen of Fan Clans
Name Colour
ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁
Official ThunderClan & ElmClan Leader
Easing back in
|
Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Aug 16, 2019 10:14:18 GMT -5
So far this is sounding like it's going to butcher Squirrel. People are getting upset about her wanting kits and how she should respect Bramble. I honestly think he shouldn't downright deny her but tell her they'd talk about it later. I hate the idea of how one party has to fold for the other and how having a mate and kits is always looked down upon. Compromises exist. I can get Squirrelflight wanting more kits because each litter had major downsides. The Three hated Squirrelflight for the longest time and Leafpool tried to wedge herself in there, she lost two of a four kit litter. Everyone is okay when a background character having a lot of kits but a main character or former main character can't? Aren't people comparing Squirrelflight to Finleap right now? Not on here, but other parts of social media. I think so. I don't think it's that bad, really.
|
|
|
Post by Brindlefern on Aug 16, 2019 11:06:10 GMT -5
So far this is sounding like it's going to butcher Squirrel. People are getting upset about her wanting kits and how she should respect Bramble. I honestly think he shouldn't downright deny her but tell her they'd talk about it later. I hate the idea of how one party has to fold for the other and how having a mate and kits is always looked down upon. Compromises exist. I can get Squirrelflight wanting more kits because each litter had major downsides. The Three hated Squirrelflight for the longest time and Leafpool tried to wedge herself in there, she lost two of a four kit litter. Everyone is okay when a background character having a lot of kits but a main character or former main character can't? Aren't people comparing Squirrelflight to Finleap right now? Not on here, but other parts of social media. I've seen some cases on Dumblr and I think also twitter.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 11:46:03 GMT -5
Aren't people comparing Squirrelflight to Finleap right now? Not on here, but other parts of social media. I've seen some cases on Dumblr and I think also twitter. What? Isn't Finleap leagues worse than this?
|
|
Bisexual
#ffc5c5
Official Queen of Fan Clans
Name Colour
ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁
Official ThunderClan & ElmClan Leader
Easing back in
|
Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Aug 16, 2019 12:32:52 GMT -5
I've seen some cases on Dumblr and I think also twitter. What? Isn't Finleap leagues worse than this?Yes. But some fans seem to think that if one person doesn't want kits, the other party should leave it as that instead of working together for a solution.
|
|
|
Post by vectoring34 on Aug 16, 2019 12:41:18 GMT -5
I'm guessing the Sisters being so buff has some kind of a story behind it. Maybe some kind of culty cannibalism? Herbs? I don't know, that their size and muscle is being emphasized so often screams to me that there's gonna be some big explanation about it. No doubt it will reveal that they are in-fact evil all along and the clans are right to battle them.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 12:53:57 GMT -5
I'm guessing the Sisters being so buff has some kind of a story behind it. Maybe some kind of culty cannibalism? Herbs? I don't know, that their size and muscle is being emphasized so often screams to me that there's gonna be some big explanation about it. No doubt it will reveal that they are in-fact evil all along and the clans are right to battle them. They're the kits of Jacques, Susan, and Darktail
|
|
|
Post by vectoring34 on Aug 16, 2019 12:58:18 GMT -5
I'm guessing the Sisters being so buff has some kind of a story behind it. Maybe some kind of culty cannibalism? Herbs? I don't know, that their size and muscle is being emphasized so often screams to me that there's gonna be some big explanation about it. No doubt it will reveal that they are in-fact evil all along and the clans are right to battle them. They're the kits of Jacques, Susan, and Darktail Only one of those is buff though, Jacques. Susan iirc was described as small and Darktail never had any muscular descriptions did he?
|
|
|
Post by kinkajou on Aug 16, 2019 13:01:20 GMT -5
I've seen some cases on Dumblr and I think also twitter. What? Isn't Finleap leagues worse than this?Yeah Squirrel just mentioned wanting kits and was disappointed when Bramble said no, which is understandable. She didn't guilt trip him or threaten to leave him
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 14:10:03 GMT -5
They're the kits of Jacques, Susan, and Darktail Only one of those is buff though, Jacques. Susan iirc was described as small and Darktail never had any muscular descriptions did he? I thought he was, because I always wondered how a wee Windclan cat like Onestar could give birth to big strong Darktail
|
|
|
Post by Featherwind on Aug 16, 2019 14:20:15 GMT -5
I'm guessing the Sisters being so buff has some kind of a story behind it. Maybe some kind of culty cannibalism? Herbs? I don't know, that their size and muscle is being emphasized so often screams to me that there's gonna be some big explanation about it. No doubt it will reveal that they are in-fact evil all along and the clans are right to battle them. Almost spilled my coffee onto the screen when I saw culty cannibalism 😂 Now I want that for the latter chapters!
|
|