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Post by Katanaheart on Feb 26, 2019 20:24:01 GMT -5
(Hooray for a spur of the moment decision to post this, despite the fact I’m still technically on leave from the forums...)
Anyway, I intend to make a post concerning various other ideas not involving WFF, on the “Site is dying thread,” whenever more possibilities to improve the site come to me...
That aside, a long while before I started my current project, I met a fellow Spoof writer by the name of Thornberry, on a rather peculiar thread in WFF of the olden days... Said thread was both an odd story with rp mechanics with a rather nonsensical plot. I was thinking perhaps we could re-purpose the idea for WFF, even have different genres so there could be some cohesive manner involved. Each bit of the story could be written post by post from different members, or whoever wished to tack on a piece. (As long as it made sense to what had been previously stated as that work’s “canon,” aka previous posts.) I really just have that base structure and perhaps there could be some word limit imposed, maybe? I’m just throwing out various ideas here, to re-mold the basic structure of what Thornberry had created.
As for how this would even help WFF, it would bring different ideas together and create a work of various individuals, it could also welcome newer members maybe? Although the true purpose of why this old and pleasant memory came to mind was for the mere fact, it could generate posts. We have views, but that’s not what the forums need here, unfortunately. It needs posts, and this was the only thing I could come up with to freely generate more posts.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Feb 26, 2019 20:33:46 GMT -5
I personally like this idea and it sounds like it would be fun as long as it was worked differently from a classic RP.
I assume the concept would be possibly having the same set of POV characters to work with an general outline for plot? Person 1 works from plot point A to B, Person 2 from point B to C, etc? Or no plot points at all and instead just over-arching idea but a character that has to be carefully followed? Very large co-write without pre-plotting ...
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Post by Katanaheart on Feb 26, 2019 20:36:46 GMT -5
I personally like this idea and it sounds like it would be fun as long as it was worked differently from a classic RP. I assume the concept would be possibly having the same set of POV characters to work with an general outline for plot? Person 1 works from plot point A to B, Person 2 from point B to C, etc? Or no plot points at all and instead just over-arching idea but a character that has to be carefully followed? Very large co-write without pre-plotting ... The latter was more what I had been accustomed too, and it was the easier format to include new people, as it required less planning. But I don’t see why two individual threads to enforce both ideas couldn’t be created, as an experiment to see which one would stick more.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Feb 26, 2019 22:40:07 GMT -5
I saw the second being more open as well. It would be fun to play with the ideas, I think!
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Post by ~Sapphire~ on Feb 27, 2019 12:28:57 GMT -5
This seems like a really fun idea! I agree that the second option would be easier - maybe allow people to make suggestions that can be followed or ignored?
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Post by Katanaheart on Feb 28, 2019 18:50:24 GMT -5
Ooooooh! That would actually be excellent addition! Especially if a plot could be going in several directions.
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Post by phantomstar57 on Feb 28, 2019 20:33:53 GMT -5
I like the idea too. Been rather quiet-new glasses need tweaking. . . But this sounds like it could be fun.
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 5, 2019 19:29:41 GMT -5
I like the idea too. Been rather quiet-new glasses need tweaking. . . But this sounds like it could be fun. Indeed it does! (I’m quite sad this thread went under so quickly... I suppose the idea wasn’t as interesting as I had hoped it to be.)
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 5, 2019 19:30:21 GMT -5
Or not the idea itself but the lack of attention this thread received is somewhat saddening, I should say.
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Post by phantomstar57 on Apr 6, 2019 12:52:42 GMT -5
Agree. Since I am not currently working on any new NEW BLOOD stories Id have a bit of time to participate. . .
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 6, 2019 16:40:52 GMT -5
Agree. Since I am not currently working on any new NEW BLOOD stories Id have a bit of time to participate. . . Agreed! But that’s provided this idea can get any responses, from the majority of WFF... (I’m still uncertain as to why this suggestion ended up obtaining very few posts and was then allowed to fall along the waste side... Is it me as a user or did I explain it weirdly? :uhh: )
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 7, 2019 3:21:19 GMT -5
Ah. Wait. Saph ... posted here already. I'm tired. Please excuse me. >.<
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Post by Maplestone360 on Apr 7, 2019 12:38:46 GMT -5
It seems I have been summoned from the void... This is a great idea! And on top of the plot not being too strict, everyone wouldn't have to feel like they should constantly be online for it, but could let other members continue with the story while they're gone. So, not really any inactivity penalties, since everyone is writing the same characters instead of all different characters who need to be there at once. Know what I mean?
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 7, 2019 15:54:00 GMT -5
It seems I have been summoned from the void... This is a great idea! And on top of the plot not being too strict, everyone wouldn't have to feel like they should constantly be online for it, but could let other members continue with the story while they're gone. So, not really any inactivity penalties, since everyone is writing the same characters instead of all different characters who need to be there at once. Know what I mean? Ah, I see what you mean!
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Post by Mosspool on Apr 7, 2019 20:16:33 GMT -5
I think this idea sounds fun! It’s something I’d definitely participate in.
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 7, 2019 20:36:45 GMT -5
Yay! Any suggestions on how to fully set said idea up?
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Post by phantomstar57 on Apr 8, 2019 17:11:53 GMT -5
Agree. Since I am not currently working on any new NEW BLOOD stories Id have a bit of time to participate. . . Agreed! But that’s provided this idea can get any responses, from the majority of WFF... (I’m still uncertain as to why this suggestion ended up obtaining very few posts and was then allowed to fall along the waste side... Is it me as a user or did I explain it weirdly? :uhh: ) Not sure! To me it seems like it would be fun.
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 9, 2019 14:05:28 GMT -5
Indeed!
Well; there seems to be an agreement: The matter then just lies in how to organize it???
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 12, 2019 20:40:29 GMT -5
Huum. Maybe there be a character created by the thread owner and then they can keep track of new characters within the series as they turn up? And maybe have a small bullet point summery of what's happened so far in the story?
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 12, 2019 23:20:39 GMT -5
Huum. Maybe there be a character created by the thread owner and then they can keep track of new characters within the series as they turn up? And maybe have a small bullet point summery of what's happened so far in the story? Perhaps? It’s a nice idea, I can keep up with characters in general. A plot summary on the other hand might be a bit more difficult. And we could always have a poll for whatever the main character will be, in terms of story, appearance, bits of personality, etc.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 13, 2019 2:35:29 GMT -5
Huuum. True, true. I see what you mean.
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 20, 2019 20:35:19 GMT -5
How to get this to actually work? (Aka bump.)
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 21, 2019 23:51:21 GMT -5
Well, maybe break down how to start it. Should there be any starting idea? For example, should you come up with the start of the plot, setting, and the main character (or characters[/s]) we're going to use or should you leave bits of that to someone else.
Or rather, what are the flaws of styling this like all of us controlling a single character like this was a reaaaaaaaally literate RP?
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 22, 2019 19:59:44 GMT -5
Well, maybe break down how to start it. Should there be any starting idea? For example, should you come up with the start of the plot, setting, and the main character (or character s[/s]) we're going to use or should you leave bits of that to someone else. Or rather, what are the flaws of styling this like all of us controlling a single character like this was a reaaaaaaaally literate RP? [/quote] I’d prefer the plot to be settled by another user, or users, depends on how crazy this could get. (As for characters, best not to let me handle that. And setting shall be determined based on plot.) Perhaps characters might work better, but that can be irritating too... There are so many things that could go wrong, which is probably why this idea can only be liked, in theory. But that might just be my pessimism speaking. (I’ve also had a bad day.) So, list of what can go wrong: -Too many cooks in one kitchen scenario. -It goes abandoned/unread. -The plot is lost. (Also plot holes.) -Disagreements, in general. -Newer users finding the prospect intimidating, therefore not joining in/commenting. -Some writers not getting a say as much as others. -How to fully delegate this? -Who would actually be in charge? -Delegations, in general. -Kat’s General pessimism. -Different writing styles could also be an issue. -Probably many more problems that are combing Kat that this was a bad idea...
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 22, 2019 19:59:58 GMT -5
Convincing*
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 23, 2019 0:36:36 GMT -5
Well, maybe break down how to start it. Should there be any starting idea? For example, should you come up with the start of the plot, setting, and the main character (or character s) we're going to use or should you leave bits of that to someone else. Or rather, what are the flaws of styling this like all of us controlling a single character like this was a reaaaaaaaally literate RP? I’d prefer the plot to be settled by another user, or users, depends on how crazy this could get. (As for characters, best not to let me handle that. And setting shall be determined based on plot.) Perhaps characters might work better, but that can be irritating too... There are so many things that could go wrong, which is probably why this idea can only be liked, in theory. But that might just be my pessimism speaking. (I’ve also had a bad day.) So, list of what can go wrong: -Too many cooks in one kitchen scenario. ( If there's a more structured plot, then I see no reason why this scenario shouldn't be treated the same as a RP would. Having a couple brief rules to keep people within realistic writing guidelines, but otherwise letting things go as they go. A lot of cooks can work in a kitchen so long as they don't bump shoulders. With a couple rules like 'if you think x character is acting out of character then do not make a big deal about it and let the story guide who they are as a character' and 'you don't control where the plot goes, no one does. Let the plot flow where it will.') -It goes abandoned/unread. ( A risk for all fan fictions. Just have to hope.) -The plot is lost. ( Also plot holes.) (I think the basic plot outline would be helpful here for that, or maybe every page to have a plot recap made by someone who has read up to that point - have that person list some of the problems they see and restate what the plot is. ) -Disagreements, in general. ( Something which is possible. I think there's the bit where we would at least have to have a couple writing rules and maybe a side plotting page so people could toss around where they think the plot is going. And maybe have the top good ideas be voted for in a poll?) -Newer users finding the prospect intimidating, therefore not joining in/commenting. ( Maybe another good reason to have a plotting thread. Then it could be a less intimidating place to approach and they're able to toss in ideas without having to write the chapters - like what is done in choose your own path?) -Some writers not getting a say as much as others. ( Discussion page! Maybe major ideas getting put to a vote? ) -How to fully delegate this? ( Applies to the below: I would think that maybe maybe having two to three people like the Potluck is currently done? Then they're like the final decision in a tied vote or maybe do the plot run downs and makes sure that things are sticking to the rules. As for being in charge, I could help out? I have the Potluck, so I'd have to see, but I could at least pitch in. And it's your idea, so I assume you might want to the voice against my optimism to balance things into a realist outlook. And maybe ask around to see if anyone else wants to keep an eye on it. It don't have to be like a leader of a clan, but just someone to edit the front page, start up the polls, and break ties. Otherwise they participate as usual. ) -Who would actually be in charge? -Delegations, in general. -Kat’s General pessimism. ( I can just help you like this friend. <3 You're okay, I promise.) -Different writing styles could also be an issue. ( Yeees and no. That might be a loss we have to cut. Writing in other author's styles will happen automatically, however, and even difference in literacy will smooth out if those users continue for a while. At that point, consider it as something fun. Sure, it's a story and we want those to be good, but first and foremost it's written for you and others to enjoy it.) -Probably many more problems that are combing Kat that this was a bad idea... ( Well, if more come up I'll try and come up with other answers.) I put answers by what you said.
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 23, 2019 1:21:37 GMT -5
So, hopefully I got everything, to repeat it.
-Discussion Thread -Plotting Thread -Having some form of Guideline/Rules for an understanding. -Finding two-three people. (I feel like someone representing the newer writers might be good, just throwing that out there.) -Polls for some decisions.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 24, 2019 10:22:46 GMT -5
That sounds like a good idea! As for someone for the new readers, I can think of two off the top of my head but I'm not sure whether they'd want to or not.
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Post by Katanaheart on Apr 24, 2019 18:37:48 GMT -5
That sounds like a good idea! As for someone for the new readers, I can think of two off the top of my head but I'm not sure whether they'd want to or not. Asketh! As for other two... Uh... Who is not busy/doesn’t have a million other things to do, and wants too??? :uhh:
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