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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Nov 29, 2018 10:06:52 GMT -5
ah, man, that sucks! i hope you find it bitty!
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Nov 29, 2018 10:26:07 GMT -5
Oh no I'm really sorry to hear it! Hope you find it soon, I'm sure its important to you
please, please, please, please, please.[/sub]
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Nov 29, 2018 10:42:54 GMT -5
i guess i should finish filling out stelo's form
oh god i have to make templates now
rip
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Nov 29, 2018 10:44:18 GMT -5
(I'm working on Roevra and Castiel now )
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Nov 29, 2018 10:49:41 GMT -5
i'm just glad stelo is my last one to type up xD and i already have their quotes, pictures, and a base for templates so i really just have to decide on a color for them all
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Nov 29, 2018 11:07:15 GMT -5
(charries are updated and finished, let me know if they're ok ꮯꮋꮻꮯꮻꮮꭺꭲꭼ • ꮯꭹꭺ🇳ꮖꭰꭼ and I am going to be writing the plotline when I get the chance!)[/b]
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Nov 29, 2018 11:08:35 GMT -5
ꮯꮋꮻꮯꮻꮮꭺꭲꭼ • ꮯꭹꭺ🇳ꮖꭰꭼ - - i just noticed something. in the forms, you say to have a description of the cat's star-saver charm, but i thought star-saving was unique to house cygnus? or does everyone have a charm and cygnus just supplies to cats or something
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Nov 29, 2018 11:25:26 GMT -5
(I've been invited out with friends so wont be back until later. just know you will make my absolute day if its a yes see you soon)
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Post by ꮯꮋꮻꮯꮻꮮꭺꭲꭼ • ꮯꭹꭺ🇳ꮖꭰꭼ on Nov 29, 2018 16:01:47 GMT -5
*puts persuasion cap on and puppy dog eyes* I had multiple. I repeat, I've thought of this way too much. And additions/differences can be made to any of these, but here are the base ideas that I thought could be fun, and open up more plotline opportunities.
(a) One, potential idea that could well be heart breaking but interesting was that Lyra gives birth to her first son. Given the clan's preference over male heirs, in spite of the two sisters being older and hence the throne is technically theirs, the idea based around perhaps misogyny amidst the clan [not quite the word I'm looking for, but it conveys the idea] and maybe... perhaps, one of the rebels kills the son to stop him being able to take over the throne, in short getting rid of competition. I thought this might be especially cool given the likely closeness Freyja and [Name I can't currently recall] to their mother, and how this could potentially break the family apart and even further weaken the throne. Unsure if Lyra would have just the one kit under this circumstance, but I really liked the idea.
( Another thought was that Lyra had a really difficult time giving birth the first time, a mixture of being really young and generally the fact that Lyra is a rather small shecat meant that she nearly lost her life delivering her daughters. So of course when the news arises that she is to have another litter, tensions spark amidst the clan perhaps worsening the strength of the throne given that their queen is out for the count for a while recovering from another difficult kitting [maybe even a kit or two dies?]. Not only could this potentially help fuel the rebellion and make it easier to exile Gallius whilst leaving Lyra behind; a prisoner in her own camp maybe because of her ties to the throne. But it also gives a reason for Lyra to be kept in the dark so carefully.
(c) Depending on how far Lyra is along influences this idea largely. But what if due to her ties to the throne, she is exiled from the clan aside her mate, and her kits recently weaned [so a moon or so old] are left behind in the Clan as it rebuilds beneath a new throne. I thought this could be awesome due to the dynamic it would introduce between the older and younger kits, as well as lingering anger towards those with blood of the previous throne. In further addition to this point could potentially be Lyra completely losing her faith in her daughters for being forced from her kits, again due to how young she is I can imagine huge resentment even to her own blood, which perhaps ties their mother closer to the old ways, and turns her cold.
Additional Points: i - It opens up the opportunity for more people to roleplay as members of the main family, but not meaning so many people are involved in the main plotline but it could still be really interesting. ii - It doesn't have to be a huge part of the plot, but rather an interesting addition that adds not only to the drama and dynamic of the clan, but adds an emotional tie to those close to the family, leaving some torn between which direction they should go in. iii - Its realistic, life doesn't stop because civil war is going on in the background, and given the age of her first litter it is reasonable to assume that Lyra being a young cat is still fertile and capable of having another litter. iv - My personal favourite, it means we get to see mean Gallius interact with kittens, I don't care how mean you are. That will be really cute.
I spent so much effort on that XD now to hope and pray. again joking, I understand if its a no, but was glad you allowed me the chance to give my side of the arguement. Either way; I am so excited for this plot! First off, let me just say that are those are some really great ideas! Plot c) intrigues me. I do entertain the thought of royal children, being hated by their own kin. Those are some pretty interesting circumstances to grow up under. [And I must say, I really do envy the individuals who get to play them. They could have so much fun].
In terms of how it works with the plot...what I'm thinking is more likely the rebels would get exiled, rather than the royal family? I just feel like it'd be more realistic. . Once House Grus's treason is exposed, there would obviously be a fight that goes down, as the rebels are left with no choice but to take a leap of faith. [And even if they didn't fight back, it would be highly unlikely that Gallius would let traitors simply waltz away from camp to do some more plotting. He would probably restrain and detain them, and perhaps execute all the ringleaders, except for his daughter]. Once the rebels realize they won't be able to win the fight, let alone flee in time to save their tails, they could go after one of Lyra's kits to hold as hostage. [This kit could potentially be male, and have Summoning abilities which would make him all the more valuable]. Seeing his kit's life in danger, Gallius would call off the attack, and the rebels would retreat.
From there, things would get interesting. Because House Grus possesses the ability to spy on the camp at any given moment [with their spirit forms], the most logical course of action would be to move camp, to hide from potential spies. [Lyra could protest to this, as it would mean moving further away from her kit]. What happens after would depend on you. Out of desperation, Lyra could visit Aeylrue in her spirit form, and beg her to spare her son's life and return him to her. How Aeylrue responds would be up to Calamity, but it could potentially lead to some interesting scenarios. Aeylrue could ask Lyra to be a spy for her. [Which, I feel like would be the most reasonable and sensible, considering asking Lyra to directly kill Gallius and Freyja would be asking too much, and most likely get Lyra killed in the process. Asking Lyra to join the rebels would also not be reasonable, seeing as it would mean exposing the rebels' location and therefore be too much of a risk]. If Aeylrue asks Lyra to be a spy, you could respond in various ways. A) you could outright refuse. B ) you could agree. Or, C) you could pretend to spy for them. Not sure what would be the exact terms to the agreement, but spying would mean Lyra would have to give away Gallius and Freyja's current location, as well as any battle plans they formulate.
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Nov 29, 2018 16:09:44 GMT -5
can i just say something real quick - a son with Summoning powers, i feel like, takes away from how important it is that freyja is female. she's likely the first female heir for quite some time, and she's also smack dab in the middle of a war. cats are going to question her regardless, especially since her enemy is also her sister. if a son is introduced that could potentially take her spot, it kind of makes her meaningless? i was really fond of her being the frontline against the rebellion, but with a son the focus would likely fall on him rather than freyja.
edit .x. this isn't a way of saying 'do what i want', please believe me. i don't want to push, i just want to play devil's advocate here. what if lyra has a daughter, instead? still likely to get kidnapped, and still important without pushing freyja out of the way
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Post by ꮯꮋꮻꮯꮻꮮꭺꭲꭼ • ꮯꭹꭺ🇳ꮖꭰꭼ on Nov 29, 2018 16:28:55 GMT -5
ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » Ah, I see. c: A daughter would be fine, too, as long as it's a kit who holds value. Also, I apologize if I never explicitly said this, but even if Lyra was to have a son it wouldn't endanger Freyja's position as heiress. In the end, regardless of what the Clan thinks, it would Gallius who makes the ultimate decision of who the power goes to. [And, from reading Freyja's bio, I can assure you that they're too alike for Gallius to simply kick Freyja from her position as soon as he has a son. cx] I just thought it could be a son because then that would make him seem more valuable in the eyes of the Clan, not necessarily Gallius himself.
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Nov 29, 2018 16:31:44 GMT -5
that does make me feel a bit better ^.^' that idea does make sense when you explain it like that! thank you for clearing up my worries! also - freyja is definitely a daddy's girl that's why they're so alike cx in that case, i withdraw my worries lol
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Post by ꮯꮋꮻꮯꮻꮮꭺꭲꭼ • ꮯꭹꭺ🇳ꮖꭰꭼ on Nov 29, 2018 16:43:36 GMT -5
ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » x'D Indeed. Also, to answer your question regarding the star-saver charms, think of them like a portable battery charger. Star-Saver cats would channel starlight into an object so that, during the daytime, cats can still use their abilities. [Since, you know, their abilities are fuelled by starlight]. This would mean every cat would have to have one to not be completely useless when the sun's out. Lol.
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Nov 29, 2018 16:44:49 GMT -5
ohhhh1 okay! that makes sense! then i'll go add that in to the forms lol
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Post by ꮯꮋꮻꮯꮻꮮꭺꭲꭼ • ꮯꭹꭺ🇳ꮖꭰꭼ on Nov 29, 2018 17:16:27 GMT -5
Venom That's a very pretty layout you've made! ^^ I'll be sure to credit you for its use.
🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ Love the descriptions you've included in your forms. They truly do add some nice character depth. One thing to take note of though, any Crafter who is not a Runic-Writer would suffer from severe physical inferiority to those who are. I haven't explained it yet [since, I'm still working on the lore; RIP me], but while technically anybody can learn the alphabetized runes and use them to enchant different objects, Runic-Writers have quite the advantage. They're able to build off of the alphabetized runes, on a personal level.
For instance, a regular cat can learn the runes, and write "the wearer can breathe underwater when wearing this object" on say, a pebble. The runes would be activated with starlight, and it would work.
A Runic-Writer, can write out the same phrase with runes, and then they can add something like this to the end of the enchantment: "This new rune [insert new rune here], will now be the equivalent of the phrase above, in meaning and intent." And, from that point onward, that particular Runic-Writer can substitute the new rune they've created, anytime they want to make a charm that allows you to breathe underwater. [Instead of writing out the entire phrase, over and over again]. Of course, it would only work for the cat that created the rune, which is why each individual Crafter's work is unique and different.
Technically, it would be the same for any cat who's chosen not to follow the "traditional" rank their House holds. [So yes, this means a House Draco cat can learn to heal with herbs, instead of starlight; a House Hydra cat can learn to hunt the old-fashioned way; a House Aquila cat can learn claw-to-claw battle tactics and serve as a Shadow/Soldier, but notice how hard it is for them not to follow their traditional roles]. All physical limitations aside, many cats would look down on those who hold a role they don't have the "right" ability for, which would be why not many choose to stray from the path their House has been assigned to.
Please keep in mind that this isn't to dissuade you from making a character like this; I just want you to know what to expect if you were to choose this.
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Nov 29, 2018 17:34:06 GMT -5
i actually made an aquila tom, my young one, who is a soldier ^.^' but i think it would be interesting to see how he fights against his main nature
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Nov 30, 2018 1:32:46 GMT -5
Sorry guys I ended up staying out super late last night [and a little under the influence admittedly] so I never got the chance to reply! I'm back now, and shall have the plotline section written up by tonight so I'm really sorry for extending your guy's wait!
OMG YES. Just yes, I want the word yes embroidered onto a pillow and sent to your location along with a box of cookies and milk that is the most amazing thing I've ever read and I need it to happen immediately.
And I'm sorry Kale it was never my intention to take power from Freyja or anything like that, just add an extra further dynamic so I'm really sorry if I've upset you in any manner! I'd never do so intentionally!
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Nov 30, 2018 2:32:56 GMT -5
I found a picture for Lyra I think I like even better, plus it looks really similar to Freyja which I think is mega sweet.
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Nov 30, 2018 7:50:14 GMT -5
I had a slight idea so wanted to see what you guys thought if that's ok. Feel free to say no given that you've already been really kind to me in regards to incorporating some of my ideas, but it never hurts to ask.
What if Lyra has a really difficult kitting, and is left really weak from it but alive. And when the rebel fight goes down she is somewhat injured and left heartbroken when one of her kits is stolen {are we talking preweaning to add a time limit to when she can still get him back alive, cos that could be interesting} so she agrees to spy for Aeylrue to ensure her kitten survives its first moon. I'm unsure as to the limits of these powers, i.e. if they tire a cat out, can only be used for a certain period of time, etc. But what if it is slowly but surely killing her keeping up as a spy? Just thought it might be interesting ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » ꮯꮋꮻꮯꮻꮮꭺꭲꭼ • ꮯꭹꭺ🇳ꮖꭰꭼ ᴄᴀʟᴀᴍɪᴛʏ
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Post by ꮯꮋꮻꮯꮻꮮꭺꭲꭼ • ꮯꭹꭺ🇳ꮖꭰꭼ on Nov 30, 2018 10:22:59 GMT -5
While I do appreciate you trying to help with the plot, let's aim to steer it into a...less complicated path, shall we? ^^" I like drama, but I don't want to overdo it because an extremely complex plot tends to drive joiners away. Either that, or people tend to interpret in different ways, which can lead to confusion. While Lyra's choices are up to you [and so is her mortality], it would probably be better if she didn't overexert herself for the purpose of spying. Plus, it wouldn't make a lot of sense, because if she's weakened, how is he going to take care of the kit when it's returned to her?
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Nov 30, 2018 10:45:18 GMT -5
Fair enough I’ll have the last bit done within an hour promise
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Post by ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » on Nov 30, 2018 11:09:43 GMT -5
someone motivate me to make templates
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Nov 30, 2018 20:05:49 GMT -5
I shall pay you in cookies, milk and hugs [unfortunately electronic as I fear shipping to your house may prove expensive] if you finish your templates ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ »
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Asexual
Raging Storm
ᴄᴀʟᴀᴍɪᴛʏ
this rock IS my fist
Pronouns: she/her or they/them
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Post by ᴄᴀʟᴀᴍɪᴛʏ on Nov 30, 2018 23:03:24 GMT -5
aa, sorry for not being too engaged in stuff lately, but now that i've decided what characters i want to use for this rp i'm ready to plot away! (only aeylrue's app is done yet, rip)
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Dec 1, 2018 9:27:03 GMT -5
Darn, internet just cut out half way through writing the plot line. At this rate it might be easier if someone else does it
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Post by ꮯꮋꮻꮯꮻꮮꭺꭲꭼ • ꮯꭹꭺ🇳ꮖꭰꭼ on Dec 1, 2018 13:36:49 GMT -5
Ahh, that sucks. No problem, I can write it once I finish up the lore.
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Dec 1, 2018 14:52:58 GMT -5
(I've managed to get my computer working so I'm willing to start up again if you'd like to save you another job?)
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Dec 1, 2018 15:27:42 GMT -5
Plotlines. For too long SpiritClan has been ruled over by a cruel dictator, who uses claws and fangs in place of democracy and talking and has made it apparent he feels no qualms in battling to reinforce his place in the Clan. After being pushed time and time again, it was never going to take much for our patience to snap. The house made inferior for too long, a cat kept in the shadows of her sister's power and a fate too cruel even the stars seem to have turned their backs on us. And the straw that breaks the camels black explodes in a way few could have ever expected. Civil war tears the clan apart at the seams, families are ripped from one another and even the closest of bonds threatened as the clan falls to pieces. Culminating in a battle that leaves cats dead, exiled or imprisoned. And one innocent life on the line, with a time limit on its fate imposed by its own loved one. Our once strong clan will be brought to the brink of extinction, and at the heart of its rebellion are the very daughters who were meant to keep it safe. The family in the middle is our own royal family, and when the impossible is asked of one cat, she will do everything in her power to bring peace back to the clan that she loves and to keep her family safe. Even at the cost of her own life. But as the clan begins to rebuild in a now broken world, it is uncertain as to if what is left over will be recognisable from what we began as. Will the change so many fought so hard for be worth the death brought with it? And will SpiritClan ever heal from the wounds it tears through our hearts.
( Sorry if the formatting looks weird, for some reason I can't load the reply screen properly so it might be a little off
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Post by 🇳ᴇcʀᴏᴅ🇦🇳cᴇʀ on Dec 1, 2018 15:28:41 GMT -5
(is that ok? ꮯꮋꮻꮯꮻꮮꭺꭲꭼ • ꮯꭹꭺ🇳ꮖꭰꭼ ʙᴜᴍʙʟᴇʙᴇᴇ » ᴄᴀʟᴀᴍɪᴛʏ ??? again, I love writing it very dramatic but understand if you'd like me to change the style up a bit)
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