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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 6, 2017 17:39:35 GMT -5
And I mean the entire series. Maybe some of the super editions too, like BP and YS. I already have some ideas in mind, like making certain relations more obvious, making Tigerstar less of an obvious and stereotypical villain, getting rid of FirexSpotted, etc... Maybe I'll even add in an evil medicine cat somewhere down the line. I do have other stuff I want to write though, such as this one series I've been trying to work on for years now, so updates will be slow from time to time. Feel free to give me any ideas. UPDATE: So, here are some changes I'd make: Using molly instead of she-cat (for some reason, the term just never settled too well with me, even before I realized what the correct term for a female cat was). Give characters as well as pairings more development than they had in canon. Like I said, have less obvious, stereotypical villains like Tigerstar. Some changes will be made to canon pairings, like with Graystripe's parents. I think we can all agree that that one really needs to change. Others like FirexSpotted will only be platonic. I think I'll make some changes to the warrior code, as well, such as the leader's word being law, or at least focus on that particular code the most and have it changed later on in the story. Cats having more than one mate (we've seen this with DaisyxSmokyxFloss and PoolxToadxNettle, but that's it). I was thinking Stormtail could be one of these cats. Adding onto this, a queen having a litter with more than one tom is something that I might include too. I might also include a gay or lesbian pairing or two in this rewrite somewhere down the line. Same goes for ace, aro, etc... Since this is a rewrite, I might change some names and personalities around, if only at least slightly. Some characters who died very early on will live longer, like Redtail, Lionheart, Spottedleaf, and maybe Oakheart too in terms of at least the first book. Some character arcs will be either changed, expanded, or omitted. SECOND UPDATE: Instead of doing six books per arc, I'm considering of just combining each of the six books and making it into one. For example, the first arc would be all one book. UPDATE III: I would like to announce that โ
Maplefrostโ
will officially be helping me with this rewrite as my editor/co-writer. UPDATE IV: Good news, everyoneโthe allegiances will definitely be posted soon (hopefully tomorrow) and it will of course be on the Fan Fiction section of the forums. I'll provide a link after I've posted it. UPDATE V: A different name for the title of both the first book and arc is needed. Suggestions are welcome. UPDATE VI: ALLEGIANCES FOR THE AU HAVE BEEN POSTED. SUGGESTIONS ARE STILL WELCOME. wcrpforums.com/thread/42991/rr-bl-re-boo-ll
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Post by Alpha on Jul 6, 2017 17:53:48 GMT -5
that would take you a long time though
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 6, 2017 18:00:19 GMT -5
that would take you a long time though Thank you for pointing out the obvious. Yeah, I know it'll take me a long time, which is why it's really more of a fun side project than my main focus.
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Post by wadevvilson on Jul 6, 2017 18:01:46 GMT -5
Dude, do itttttt. I'd love to see your take on everything! [I'd do it myself, but I find it extremely hard to care about the majority of the canon characters and what happens to them nowadays.]
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 6, 2017 18:07:06 GMT -5
Dude, do itttttt. I'd love to see your take on everything! [I'd do it myself, but I find it extremely hard to care about the majority of the canon characters and what happens to them nowadays.] Haha, thanks! And I get what you mean. Which is why I'll treat them as if they were my own. A completely new fresh start. Same characters, but some of them will have different personalities and I hope to give some minor characters a slightly bigger role as well, like Goldenflower.
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Post by Amber on Jul 6, 2017 18:31:05 GMT -5
Sounds like a really fun project! Can't wait to see what you do with it.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 6, 2017 18:32:00 GMT -5
Sounds like a really fun project! Can't wait to see what you do with it. Thanks!
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Post by Amber on Jul 6, 2017 19:44:09 GMT -5
Sounds like a really fun project! Can't wait to see what you do with it. Thanks! You're welcome!
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Post by Basement Cat on Jul 6, 2017 21:33:44 GMT -5
As long as you imply somewhere that Whitestorm has Morgan Freeman's voice, then I agree wholeheartedly.
But, in all seriousness, go for it. You have an excellent grasp on the books and how they work, so I would definitely read it if you did.
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Post by wadevvilson on Jul 6, 2017 21:34:59 GMT -5
As long as you imply somewhere that Whitestorm has Morgan Freeman's voice, then I agree wholeheartedly.
i would be down for Whitestorm with Morgan Freeman's voice, to be honest. Even though part of me doesn't see it as all that fitting.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 6, 2017 21:47:55 GMT -5
As long as you imply somewhere that Whitestorm has Morgan Freeman's voice, then I agree wholeheartedly.
But, in all seriousness, go for it. You have an excellent grasp on the books and how they work, so I would definitely read it if you did. If Morgan Freeman doesn't play Whitestorm in the movie, I'm boycotting. But seriously, thank you, BC. I think I might rewrite just the first book at least, and if it's popular enough, then I'll continue from there.
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Post by Ligerfrost on Jul 6, 2017 22:06:37 GMT -5
Take Squirrelflight out of New Prophecy and have her be born in PoT or at least make her a background character in NP. If you want I can give you reasoning for it from. The if you could erase any character thread.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 6, 2017 22:16:55 GMT -5
Take Squirrelflight out of New Prophecy and have her be born in PoT or at least make her a background character in NP. If you want I can give you reasoning for it from. The if you could erase any character thread. I've read your post. I actually already decided on having Squirrelflight in TNP, but I don't want her to have as large of a role as she did in that arc, so I agree with you there, so I'll probably have her be more of a supporting character. At the very least, I do want to change her character arc from TNP, especially when it comes to the second half. The drama was just really unnecessary. I might even include that CrowxSquirrel/TawnyxStorm/BramblexFeather pairing I was expecting when I first read TNP, but we'll see when we cross that bridge.
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Post by kinkajou on Jul 6, 2017 22:55:54 GMT -5
Yes do it please
do the mothwing n hawkfrost personality swap
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 6, 2017 23:00:35 GMT -5
Yes do it please do the mothwing n hawkfrost personality swapLol! Honestly, I'm not even sure if Mothwing and Hawkfrost are going to be in this at all, or Sasha for that matter. I am sort of tempted to have TigerxLeopard or TigerxSpotted be a thing, though. Again, I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 7, 2017 21:02:00 GMT -5
Bump
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Post by MiNaMi on Jul 9, 2017 8:57:27 GMT -5
Ooooooooh!! You should totally do it! I can't wait to read it!!
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Post by Solarmyr on Jul 9, 2017 9:34:36 GMT -5
I'm about 98% sure it's already been done by somebody, but sure man, go for it if you feel inclined to. It'd be interesting to see another new take on the series. :0
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 9, 2017 10:02:26 GMT -5
I'm about 98% sure it's already been done by somebody, but sure man, go for it if you feel inclined to. It'd be interesting to see another new take on the series. :0 Thanks. And I know it's already been done, but rewriting the series isn't entirely uncommon anyway, especially given AUs such as Ravenpaw staying with the Clans or Hollyleaf being the Third. They technically count as rewrites, to me anyway, since it's taking what's canon and changing it.
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Post by Solarmyr on Jul 9, 2017 10:29:27 GMT -5
๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต No problem! Fair point. Good luck, to say the very least. Chances are it'll take a fair bit of dedication, I imagine.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 9, 2017 17:47:27 GMT -5
Update!
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Post by Amber on Jul 9, 2017 17:55:27 GMT -5
Sounds really cool!
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Post by Lightflame on Jul 9, 2017 19:39:15 GMT -5
Can I make a few suggestions for stuff in the first book? You may already be considering some of this stuff, but I just wanted to put it out there.
- Make Sunstar the father of Willowpelt, Spottedleaf, and Redtail. - The trip to the Moonstone accomplishes absolutely nothing for the characters. Move it to before the Gathering, and have Spottedleaf lead the group instead of Bluestar. ThunderClan is attacked when Bluestar and Firepaw are away doing a different thing. (My idea is that they go to RiverClan to try to get them to change their minds, introducing a few key RiverClanners earlier in the story. They fail at the time, but a couple RiverClanners show up at the end to help out against Brokenstar.) Bluestar loses her life against Brokenstar (instead of rats), showing us the nine lives concept while also establishing his fighting skill. As well, Tigerstar sends Ravenpaw hunting before this, and he doesn't show up again until after the battle. This makes it look way more plausible to the characters that Ravenpaw is the mole. - When Smudge is trying to dissuade Rusty, have him say that Henry told him about a cat named Tiny who went into the forest and never came back. - Maybe have an actual mole for ShadowClan in ThunderClan? Some of what ShadowClan does would make sense if they really did have one. You could even only reveal it in an epilogue, so that the mole could hang around for a few books. - Two easy fixes for the Redtail murder plot. The first is that Leopardfur is already working with Tigerclaw, and helps him cover up the murder by giving RiverClan the same lie that Tigerclaw gives to ThunderClan. The second is that Ravenpaw doesn't see Tigerclaw kill Redtail. He just sees Oakheart die first. Knowing that Tigerclaw lied makes him convinced that Tigerclaw killed Redtail, but leaves way more room for Bluestar to doubt him. - In addition to the whole child soldiers thing, maybe Brokenstar could also supplement his fighting force with rogues? Maybe rogues with spiked collars? - Maybe have a few RiverClan cats mentioned as hating Whitestorm because of "his bloodline", but not elaborating on that until the next books. - Have Silverstream appear as Silverpaw, who is introduced as a rival to Firepaw, but helps him at the end of the book. You could hold off on introducing her to Graystripe until book two, though. - Expand on the rivalry between Dustpaw and Firepaw. Maybe also show a few more hints of Dustpaw's honourable side, because that got only two sentences in the original version of the book.
Those are some of my biggest suggestions for Into the Wild. Whatever you decide to do, I wish you good luck rewriting the series. There are so many books that it's going to be a crazy endeavor, but you understand the characters and the series really well, so I think you'll do a good job.
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Post by Tas on Jul 9, 2017 20:01:55 GMT -5
wow, though
like, holy wow
that's a freaking lot of books
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 9, 2017 20:19:10 GMT -5
LightflameThanks, for both the compliment and suggestions. I actually was thinking of adding some of those things in anyway, but I really appreciate it nonetheless. But why have Sunstar specifically be the father of Willowpelt, Spottedleaf, and Redtail?
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Post by Lightflame on Jul 9, 2017 20:39:34 GMT -5
LightflameThanks, for both the compliment and suggestions. I actually was thinking of adding some of those things in anyway, but I really appreciate it nonetheless. But why have Sunstar specifically be the father of Willowpelt, Spottedleaf, and Redtail? Half the characters in ThunderClan seem to be descended from Adderfang and Swiftbreeze. Sunstar is completely disconnected from the other bloodlines in ThunderClan, so making him the father cuts down on incest and makes it so his bloodline didn't die out.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 9, 2017 20:44:35 GMT -5
LightflameThanks, for both the compliment and suggestions. I actually was thinking of adding some of those things in anyway, but I really appreciate it nonetheless. But why have Sunstar specifically be the father of Willowpelt, Spottedleaf, and Redtail? Half the characters in ThunderClan seem to be descended from Adderfang and Swiftbreeze. Sunstar is completely disconnected from the other bloodlines in ThunderClan, so making him the father cuts down on incest and makes it so his bloodline didn't die out. I was actually thinking of making Sunstar a father, I just wasn't sure to whose kits, though Swiftbreeze was a possibility anyway, so I'll definitely consider it. Again, thank you. Do you have any more suggestions? Not just for the first book, but in general?
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Post by ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐จ on Jul 9, 2017 20:47:57 GMT -5
If you do this, and keep certain characters in the Dark Forest, can you elapse on why they are there? Examples being background dark forest characters.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Jul 9, 2017 20:52:40 GMT -5
If you do this, and keep certain characters in the Dark Forest, can you elapse on why they are there? Examples being background dark forest characters. If I get that far, yeah I'll definitely do that. I was going to do that anyway, though more in the form of short stories at least, once I figure out how they got there.
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Post by Lightflame on Jul 9, 2017 20:53:51 GMT -5
Half the characters in ThunderClan seem to be descended from Adderfang and Swiftbreeze. Sunstar is completely disconnected from the other bloodlines in ThunderClan, so making him the father cuts down on incest and makes it so his bloodline didn't die out. I was actually thinking of making Sunstar a father, I just wasn't sure to whose kits, though Swiftbreeze was a possibility anyway, so I'll definitely consider it. Again, thank you. Do you have any more suggestions? Not just for the first book, but in general? I was spitballing with Leonard the other day, so I have a bunch, actually. I'll share them when I get off mobile. (I'm also going to write a topic about the idea I had for a major overhaul to the story of Rock, the Three, and the Dark Forest. It's basically the latest permutation of the lore I've been posting since the beginning of the Featherfall theory.)
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