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Post by finland on Jun 22, 2017 15:19:56 GMT -5
Personally I view this pairing as my NOTP. I was very angry when it became canon. So what's your opinion?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 15:59:41 GMT -5
I don't love it, but it doesn't bother me.
I just wish Hazeltail and Thornclaw had been mates instead, but she's dead.
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Post by tiger beetle on Jun 22, 2017 16:18:41 GMT -5
I don't like it
1. while I don't like IvyxBlossom* I still think there's more chemistry for it than ThornxBlossom (I know they'd never put it in-text but they could at least have done something the way they did with RavenxBarley) 2. I get that the cats don't care about the age gap, but the more humanized they get, the weirder it feels to read 3. was there…any build-up? I know the shippers found a passage that could be interpreted as subtext, but it was more literally about their time in the DF and didn't have to be romantic 4. can't Thornclaw just stay single come on
my guess is that the Erins really wanted to pair off Blossomfall and give her kits because one of her parents isn't related to anyone else in the Clan (so while her father being Graystripe means that any relationship she could possibly have would be incest in some way, it becomes easier to avoid immediate family members to use one of Millie's kits)
but then again, you'd think they would have done more with Hazeltail or Mousewhisker…don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly happy with them staying single (wish Hazeltail hadn't died, but that's beside the point), but if they're making pairings to minimize incest, using more of the cats who aren't related to any of their Clanmates (besides their mother obviously) would make sense than what they've done
and even with Millie's other kits they made Briarlight unable to have kits and stuck Bumblestripe in a love triangle, so maybe it wasn't even about blood relations at all
yeah I don't like ThornxBlossom
*reason being that even in SotM, where they're "friends," Blossomfall is pretty controlling toward Ivypool…to me it just seems like it wouldn't be a very healthy relationship…maybe Blossomfall (and Ivypool but in terms of being in a relationship specifically I think Blossomfall had further to go) matured a lot since I stopped reading, but that's my take
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 16:19:11 GMT -5
Don't like it, I was digging Thornclaw as that one old cat that was independent without a mate. I was really wanting him to be the next Mousefur, but NOPE. Thanks, Erins.
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Post by kinkajou on Jun 22, 2017 16:26:17 GMT -5
Muy mal
I wanted aromantic Thornclaw : (
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Post by Wolfdusk on Jun 22, 2017 16:42:39 GMT -5
This is probably an unpopular opinion on the forums lol, but I actually always really liked the ship? I just feel like their personalities go well together, but I also really just like the idea of Blossomfall getting a mate or something in general since she was going through all the drama with her family and needed someone to lean on. I was happy that it was canon. And I don't mind the age gap, I've probably said it a million times, but it really doesn't matter to me since they're cats and it's no where near as creepy as ThistleSpotted was.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 22, 2017 19:45:23 GMT -5
What bothers me more is that the Erins teased and pandered at the idea of Blosssom x Ivy, giving lots of fans hope, and I hate how they went, SIKE, and put Blossom with a tom that's like 3x her age. Thornclaw is also hc as ace by a lot of the fandom, he should have stayed single and I would have preferred that too. He's already noted to be too old, even in SS when he sees his kits. And I get cats don't care about age, but still??? Also they could have easily just put Blossom, Ivypool and Fernsong in a poly relationship, they had no problem doing it with Gray, Turtle and Slate. Another thing that bothers me is the lack of development, the only thing Thorn x Blossom had was the throw away line, where Lion assumed they were a couple but was wrong and they were actually just DF trainees. Overally this is a horrible ship, and even worse than pairings with one-book development before canon.
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Post by Moonblazer on Jun 22, 2017 20:23:03 GMT -5
I'm perfectly fine with this ship and not only are both mature cats who can be mates with any other mature cat they want, but I always liked the idea of both having kits one day.
So I like it. *shrug*
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 20:24:22 GMT -5
What bothers me more is that the Erins teased and pandered at the idea of Blosssom x Ivy, giving lots of fans hope, and I hate how they went, SIKE, and put Blossom with a tom that's like 3x her age. Thornclaw is also hc as ace by a lot of the fandom, he should have stayed single and I would have preferred that too. He's already noted to be too old, even in SS when he sees his kits. And I get cats don't care about age, but still??? Also they could have easily just put Blossom, Ivypool and Fernsong in a poly relationship, they had no problem doing it with Gray, Turtle and Slate. Another thing that bothers me is the lack of development, the only thing Thorn x Blossom had was the throw away line, where Lion assumed they were a couple but was wrong and they were actually just DF trainees. Overally this is a horrible ship, and even worse than pairings with one-book development before canon. ☁︎ out of character ☁︎ wait, when where they queerbaiting ?
☁︎ roleplay ☁︎
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Post by 𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥 on Jun 22, 2017 20:31:10 GMT -5
I don't like it.
My headcanon is that Blossomfall was afraid of being judged for having an unrequited crush on Ivypool, so she got together with Thornclaw to hide her feelings.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Jun 22, 2017 23:26:02 GMT -5
I don't really care tbh. It is what it is.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Jun 22, 2017 23:33:43 GMT -5
I'm fine with it. I personally don't understand why so many people hate it. It is a typical relationship and the scenes we have of them were cute.
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Post by Basement Cat on Jun 23, 2017 0:24:31 GMT -5
It doesn't...make sense to me. There isn't any chemistry between them. The most given was a single brief scene where Lionblaze thought they were together, but Thornclaw was actually discussing the dark forest with Blossomfall.
I know I somehow always jump back to this, but there is a reason people prefer Blossomfall with Ivypool. They have chemistry with one another. Their characters grow with one another, they are of similar age, they prevent the problem of ThunderClan overpopulating, they both had very real regrets from their time in the dark forest, and it would be a perfect send off to their arcs to have them get through it together. There are multiple times they act as if there is something between them that is never verified, and yet behave similarly to Ravenpaw around Barley, as two characters who complement and support the other.
However, you know...gotta please your fans from countries where homosexuality is banned. Or no money. So here's a confusing, kind of creepy shipping to satisfy your shipping needs.
Oh well. I've stopped caring about what is in the books at this point. It ends for me at TLH.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 0:51:09 GMT -5
I am fine with it. I don't really care about BLossomfall in the first place, so I also don't care that she's with a super old dude. It's just sad because he will die before his kits are either apprenticed or made warriors (give or take). I also don't really understand BLossomxIvy? Like the other user here said, Ivypool wasn't truly 100% good friends with Blossomfall during their like...one scene together?
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Post by EthanTheAnnus on Jun 23, 2017 2:29:12 GMT -5
This doesn't bother me one bit.
Now, when IvyxThorn was planned to be canon, on the other paw..
Thank goodness that didn't happen.
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Post by Pyropelt on Jun 23, 2017 2:36:29 GMT -5
I don't mind it, and don't care about the age difference. They're both adult cats. I'm glad that Thornclaw has kits of his own. And hopefully he and Blossomfall will be a good parents to them.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 23, 2017 2:42:16 GMT -5
What bothers me more is that the Erins teased and pandered at the idea of Blosssom x Ivy, giving lots of fans hope, and I hate how they went, SIKE, and put Blossom with a tom that's like 3x her age. Thornclaw is also hc as ace by a lot of the fandom, he should have stayed single and I would have preferred that too. He's already noted to be too old, even in SS when he sees his kits. And I get cats don't care about age, but still??? Also they could have easily just put Blossom, Ivypool and Fernsong in a poly relationship, they had no problem doing it with Gray, Turtle and Slate. Another thing that bothers me is the lack of development, the only thing Thorn x Blossom had was the throw away line, where Lion assumed they were a couple but was wrong and they were actually just DF trainees. Overally this is a horrible ship, and even worse than pairings with one-book development before canon. ☁︎ out of character ☁︎ wait, when where they queerbaiting ?
☁︎ roleplay ☁︎ Actually tried digging it up, but since it's on the older forums, it's hard to find. But I do remember one of the Erins was talking to a fan about the pairing. And said is seemed interesting and okay. And I remember that a lot of the BlossomIvy shippers took it to heart. From what I also remember, the only Erin actively not into Ivy x Blossom was Kate, probably because she was pushing for Fern x Ivy.
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Post by Kibui on Jun 23, 2017 13:18:25 GMT -5
I think it's fine, actually. At least it didn't come out of nowhere like some other pairings so that's something
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Post by finland on Jun 23, 2017 14:58:22 GMT -5
I think it's fine, actually. At least it didn't come out of nowhere like some other pairings so that's something I felt like it came out of nowhere.
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Post by Cinderleaf on Jun 23, 2017 15:53:38 GMT -5
I like it a lot.
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Post by Darkfang ☾ on Jun 23, 2017 16:05:45 GMT -5
i've said it before and I'll say it again, I do not mind the age gap in the slightest. They're both adults so why not? It's nice to see Thornclaw find a mate at last and I think they're very much compatible.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 17:05:40 GMT -5
To be completely honest? I don't care for Thorn x Blossom. I just want to see more of Blossomfall being a good mother to her kits.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Jun 23, 2017 17:55:56 GMT -5
I think it's fine, actually. At least it didn't come out of nowhere like some other pairings so that's something I felt like it came out of nowhere. The first hint we got was in TLH, which was three years. Three years is a long time for a relationship to develop, especially in this universe.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 23, 2017 19:18:16 GMT -5
I felt like it came out of nowhere. The first hint we got was in TLH, which was three years. Three years is a long time for a relationship to develop, especially in this universe. In book time and irl time aren't the same though. And the only hint they had was based on Lionblaze's assumption, which turned out to be wrong, and was just a throwaway line. So this pairing did come out of no where, making it one of the most underdeveloped ships in the series. Even more than Storm x Clear Sky on a supposed romantic scale.
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Post by Tas on Jun 23, 2017 19:54:29 GMT -5
I don't mind it, and I think Blossom will be a good mother...
but it seems really out of the blue and sudden. We see nothing leading up to it and then BAM suddenly they're mates.
They're both senior warriors and Thornclaw should probably be considering the elders' den soon ...
it seems late for kits for both of them.
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Post by literalynxxo on Jun 24, 2017 1:17:34 GMT -5
I think it's fine, actually. At least it didn't come out of nowhere like some other pairings so that's something But really it did. The only hint was Lionblazes assumption, and that turned out to be wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2017 1:49:17 GMT -5
if they had to pawn Blossomfall off to some random tom, they could have at least chosen Mousewhisker.
maybe Thornclaw was just a sperm donor and Blossom and Ivy raise the kits together. and the reason he was so anxious in the beginning is cause he cares about Blossom and his kits in a friendly not creepily romantic way
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Post by finland on Jun 24, 2017 10:09:44 GMT -5
if they had to pawn Blossomfall off to some random tom, they could have at least chosen Mousewhisker. maybe Thornclaw was just a sperm donor and Blossom and Ivy raise the kits together. and the reason he was so anxious in the beginning is cause he cares about Blossom and his kits in a friendly not creepily romantic way Nice headcanon! I love it!!
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Jun 24, 2017 11:14:09 GMT -5
As it is, I feel like there's not enough development for either character for me to form an opinion on them… It's really a shame because they both trained in the Dark Forest, and could have found common ground in moving on from that. But we either don't see it or that doesn't happen, so it's wasted potential for what could have been a well-developed pairing…
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