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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 12:06:18 GMT -5
I never really cared for Thistleclaw, but he is a bad cat at heart. He craves blood & battles.. he even killed a cat for crying out loud.. just because he loves Snowfur doesn't mean he's a good cat, it just simply means that he's not a heartless monster and does care for some.
I will say that BP is a little biased based on Bluefur's opinion about him, though.
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Post by Darkfang ☾ on Jun 19, 2017 12:26:33 GMT -5
What cat did he kill? Or was that the Dark Forest warrior?
When I first read BP, I despised him. But over time I have gradually started to like him because (I'm disregarding SH as that changes things) although he was ambitious and a jerk, I never saw him being any worse than Mudclaw or Russetfur, other ambitious warriors. He never killed anyone whilst alive and never tried to betray his clan.
SH kinda threw that thought slightly on its head as he was pretty brutal in the DF. However, we still cannot say for certain that he wasn't in the DF in order to be a strong yet loyal warrior for his clan as so many 'good' cats fought in the DF. I mean Ivypool killed a cat in the DF and attempted to kill Flametail as well.
So although he's not a nice cat, I don't think it's a clear 'he's evil' situation. I think he's a jerk, ambitious and can be brutal but at the end of the day, he never betrayed his clan (or even attempted to) and never killed a living cat either. Unpopular opinion, I know. Perhaps I'd be more critical of him if the likes of Ashfur went to the DF instead of StarClan as that suggests to me you must do something horrific (worse than attempted murder of 4 cats horrific) to get to the DF.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 19, 2017 20:24:24 GMT -5
Pretty much what Dark said, I still like him as a character, imo I found him to be much more interesting than cats like Tigerclaw, or Bluestar and Spottedleaf.
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Post by Havenlake on Jun 19, 2017 22:03:11 GMT -5
Don't forget that Crookedstar's Promise had another POV that showed Thistle's evil side. I keep seeing people bring up all these arguments about Thistle ever since Spottedleaf's Heart but I rarely see anyone bring up CP in their debates. Just BP and SH. It's.. it's really weird tbh
As for opinions on ol' Thistle.. he's okay I guess. Bad cat, decent villain/antagonist. I do wonder if he would've been a better cat or just as bad had Snowfur not died so soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 22:47:45 GMT -5
I always just found him to be an annoying cat that had no reason to exist besides giving some reasoning behind Tigerstar's actions. I despised the stupid cat in BP, but, like you said, that was a little biased.
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Jun 21, 2017 0:17:06 GMT -5
he's annoying and unlikeable and I don't get why so many people like him at this point. (if you do, nothing personal on you.) I agree. Can't stand him at all.
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Post by Darkfang ☾ on Jun 22, 2017 15:21:42 GMT -5
Don't forget that Crookedstar's Promise had another POV that showed Thistle's evil side. I keep seeing people bring up all these arguments about Thistle ever since Spottedleaf's Heart but I rarely see anyone bring up CP in their debates. Just BP and SH. It's.. it's really weird tbh As for opinions on ol' Thistle.. he's okay I guess. Bad cat, decent villain/antagonist. I do wonder if he would've been a better cat or just as bad had Snowfur not died so soon. That's because I didn't think he was that bad in CP. We only saw him for a brief moment when he was learning the killing bite which he believed was a 'powerful move'. He also called Whitekit soft like his mother but I always felt he was grieving in his own strange way.
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Post by wadevvilson on Jul 4, 2017 4:32:40 GMT -5
He was an okay character until the dreaded novella happened, but I never liked him as a person.
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