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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 25, 2017 13:34:51 GMT -5
Sorry for such a late response. >.< That's history lesson is very interesting! I'm looking forward to the religion breakdown. No idea if you can do it in photoshop elements. I've been making an animation using paint.net and GIF making sights, but that's taking me forever. ^^' (Forever being 4 months.)
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Post by Dingoleap on Apr 26, 2017 20:26:04 GMT -5
Sorry it took ME so long to respond! School went back yesterday, and it has been hectic! I'm glad you enjoyed it! I'm nearly finished typing! According to google, I can make gifs in PSE, but I don't know if I can make entire storyboard-length animations. We'll see... OOoh, sounds interesting, Mint!
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 26, 2017 23:41:25 GMT -5
My late reply was because I was moving houses. ^^'
O.O
I'm playing this hard, self made game called 'Let's try to make and post a animation on the forums using only free programs and see if avoiding YouTube is at all possible.' It's hard. XD
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Post by Dingoleap on Apr 27, 2017 1:43:17 GMT -5
Oooh, exciting!
Sounds fun, yet hard O.o If I do make a storyboard animation, I'm not sure if I'd post it on YouTube or not. If I can post it here, is much rather donthat, but I don't know if we can :/
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on Apr 27, 2017 17:41:12 GMT -5
Very hard. Don't do it unless you love a challenge. I'm having fun, though, and my computer art has improved by miles. My latest flat colored computer art: You can link to a YouTube video here. Like this: Or you can post it as a GIF. Those are the best options I have found for posting it here.
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Post by Dingoleap on May 1, 2017 22:25:45 GMT -5
I spent waaaaaay too long researching cat genetics and working out what each of these characters would look like if they were genetically accurate.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 1, 2017 22:27:36 GMT -5
And...was even one genetically accurate? :3
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Post by Dingoleap on May 2, 2017 1:40:59 GMT -5
Surprisingly there were quite a few. There were also quite a few who were genetically impossible considering their parents designs and colours *cough* Nefertiti *cough*
XD
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 2, 2017 1:52:17 GMT -5
Magic! Their gift is to defy genetic laws. You wanna change them now or just a fun fact to put at the back of the comic?
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Post by Dingoleap on May 2, 2017 1:58:18 GMT -5
DEFYING SCIENCE! Some of the designs of secondary characters have been changed, but the major ones aren't changing. I'll post the whole file once I get home to my computer - another tidbit of random information!
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 2, 2017 2:05:53 GMT -5
The main goal of all writers and artists. Creating worlds with the sweep of a pen. That's cool. I can't wait to see!
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Post by Dingoleap on May 2, 2017 3:44:28 GMT -5
That's it! Ahaha, I can't wait to subject you to useless trivia!
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 2, 2017 8:47:54 GMT -5
Neither can I.
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Post by Dingoleap on May 3, 2017 1:48:33 GMT -5
IT'S GENETICS TIME!!! Also, I guess, the introduction of some background characters, that don't appear in the comic, but are important to the whole 'prequel' story I'm writing out...
A little bit on the terminology used and how I make distinctions; * All red cats are tabbies, due to the way the non-agouti gene (the gene for solid colour) is affected by red pigment. If I say solid red, it means that the cat is completely red tabby, with no trace of white. * Black tabby means a classic brown with black stripes (although I tend to draw the stripes as darker brown), as tabby colours are named after the colour of their stripes. * If I say that a cat is 'bicolour', I am generally saying that the cat is a tuxedo pattern, or something akin to that. If I say the cat was white spotting, I mean that the cat is predominantly one colour with a few white patches. Heavy white spotting means that the cat is predominantly white with patches of colour. * Cat breeds do not exist in this world, therefore there are no breed-specific colours. I tread these colours (amber, light amber, ruddy, chocolate and the Bengal genes) are treated as regular colours.
Note - If I say (formerly 'blah') next to a design, it means that I have changed the original design into the genetically correct one. If it says (canonically 'blah') it means that their design has not changed at all. This is just me having fun. Anyway, on with the show!
COAT COLOURS;; Kartya - black tabby bicolour Unnamed father - solid white (black tabby underneath) Artemis - black tabby bicolour (formerly solid white) Mali - black tabby with white Ray - black tabby bicolour (formerly grey bicolour)
Artemis - black tabby bicolour, heavy white spotting Skor - solid blue (grey) tabby Nefertiti - black tabby bicolour (canonically solid blue (grey) tabby) Tigerlily - black bicolour tabby Funnily enough, Nef's family tree is the most genetically incorrect. All members of her family (with the exception of her father) should be black tabby with some degree of white spotting. Nef herself should be black tabby, as suppose to grey tabby. Grey, or blue, is the dilute form of black, and is a recessive gene, making black tabby dominant, meaning both girls should take after their mother. The gene for white is also dominant, meaning both should have some white on them as well.
Ray - black tabby bicolour (formerly grey bicolour) Honu - tortoiseshell-tabby with white Cleopatra - tortoiseshell-tabby with white Asp - tortoiseshell-tabby with white I have no idea if tortoiseshell is dominant over tabby, so I sat on the fence and made them torbies, with white patches due to the dominant white spotting gene.
Tully - amber tabby, born black (canonically golden spotted tabby) Unnamed father - solid black bicolour Otto - chimera - mixed amber tabby with black, some white markings. (Canonically golden with black patches and white) The only way that I could make Otto's canon design - solid golden colour with black patches and white - even remotely realistic was to make him a chimera. That would mean, however, making him amber tabby with black patches and white. 'Golden' as such does not exist in cats. The closest I could get was amber tabby. I originally planned on making Tully a copper Egyptian mau, but she's now just a regular spotted tabby, since cat breeds don't exist in this world.
Chimerism is extremely rare in cats, but I couldn't resist. If he wasn't chimera, he'd be black bicolour. Usually, male kittens inherit the colour gene from their mother, but the amber gene is recessive. He would need both parents to carry the gene.
In the real world, this combination would be impossible, as the gene for amber is only found in Norwegian forest cats. Not only that, as amber is the recessive gene, without his father also carrying the gene, the amber gene cannot be expressed in any offspring. Fortunately for me, purebred cats do not exist in this world, so breed-exclusive traits act like regular genes.
Unnamed step-father - solid chocolate Liana (half-sister) - chocolate tortoiseshell Tanner (half-brother) - light amber tabby The chocolate gene is interesting, as it is another form of black. It is recessive to black, but dominant to cream and fawn. I'm assuming that the amber gene (since it is no longer breed-linked) behaves like red, albeit a dilute form, resulting in Liana becoming a chocolate tortoiseshell and Tanner becoming amber. Interestingly, I hadn't thought about what colour Otto's half-siblings would end up being until now.
Dikon - charcoal Bengal Unnamed father - grey tabby Asha - grey tabby Shade - charcoal Bengal Whitney - charcoal Bengal The charcoal gene was originally developed within Bengal cats, and seems to appear randomly throughout the breed. I've got no idea if the gene is dominant or recessive, but it seems that both charcoal and non-charcoal kittens can appear in a litter where there is at least one charcoal parent.
Unnamed mother - solid red tabby Unnamed father - solid red tabby Nico - solid red tabby Gjin - solid red tabby I designed Gjin long before I designed the rest of her family, but her design ultimately decided what the rest of her relatives would look like. Red is sex-linked, meaning that in order for a female kitten to be red, she needs to inherit two copies of the red gene - one from either parent. If both parents were red, it meant that all their offspring would have to be solid red.
Unnamed mother - blue tabby Hunter - solid black (carries dilute) Jax - blue tabby While blue is a recessive gene, it is the diluted form of black, meaning a solid black cat can carry the gene for blue, resulting in dilute offspring. Jax inherits one copy of the blue gene from each of his parents. Jax's canon colours are more intense than blue, which is more grey based while Jax is more blue/indigo-based, but it is the official name of that particular colour.
Skyla - Snow Bengal Mr Smoke - seal Lynx Bengal Desh - seal lynx Bengal Desh's genetics were difficult. I had already decided she would be a seal lynx Bengal, but the problem is that I have no idea how Bengal genes work, and I don't know which colours are dominant and which are recessive, so this is simply my best guess based on the face that snow seems rarer than seal/lynx.
Unnamed mother - tortoiseshell and white Unnamed father - ruddy Vince - ruddy Feldspar - black bicolour Leo - ruddy and white Tally - tortoiseshell and white I've always pictured Vince as solid red with black ears. Considering that can't happen genetically, he's become a ruddy somali. Since breeds to not exist, I will be treating 'ruddy' as a variation of red - which means I can have a little fun designing his siblings.
Unnamed mother - solid red Unnamed father - red tabby with white Rahni - red tabby with white Another case of one character's design deciding what the rest of their family looks like. Rahni inherits a red gene from each parent, as well as the dominant white gene from her father, resulting in her white patches.
Unnamed mother - solid black (carrying colourpoint) Unnamed father - red point Mica - tortoiseshell point Unnamed sister - solid tortoiseshell (carrying colourpoint) Unnamed brother - solid red Mica is the only colourpoint cat to exist in the comic universe. The point gene is actually a form of albinism, with colour only appearing in the cooler parts of the body. Since she was born into a cold climate, her points are in high contrast to her white fur. Being a colourpoint, she also gets to keep her striking blue eyes.
Unnamed mother - black bicolour Unnamed father - red tabby with white Dex - red tabby with white (canonically tortoiseshell and white) Dex is another improbable cat. While tortoiseshell males do exist, they are statistically one in many thousands, and even then are predominantly red with minor black patches, not complete brindled tortoiseshell as Dex was designed.
Unnamed mother - dilute tortoiseshell Unnamed father - grey bicolour Kosovo - grey bicolour Grey cats everywhere! I feel like this one is pretty self-explanatory
Phew! All our major characters are done (with the exception of Diablo, because of spoilers.). I was going to extend this to include eye colours, but I have no idea how that works, apart from blue eyes, really. I suppose, technically, that the secondary characters should have more siblings, but they were never designed - apart from Mica's siblings who were designed mostly because I was curious as to how the colourpoint gene works, and Vince, who somehow ended up with three siblings despite them being totally irrelevant. Desh is the only one who is canonically an only child.
Ok, if you got through that, I am beyond impressed X'D
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 4, 2017 14:56:31 GMT -5
Mildly confused. You said Jax twice or...? Also, be beyond impressed, because yes, I read it all.
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Post by Dingoleap on May 5, 2017 19:49:39 GMT -5
Whoops, thats my bad. I should have caught that mistake. I meant to say that his cannon design is more blue based, rather than grey based. Thanks for pointing that out, Mint!
AAYYYY, ALL THE BONUS POINTS GO TO MINT!
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 5, 2017 19:59:32 GMT -5
Ah, makes sense now. * Game Over: You Won! scrolls across the screen*
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Post by Dingoleap on May 5, 2017 20:05:29 GMT -5
I find that the more I read over stuff the harder it is to pick up on mistakes XD
VICTORYYYYYYYYYY
So, I'm thinking of posting some art/a one-shot based on another favourite project of mine.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 5, 2017 20:14:59 GMT -5
Ha, I know the feeling. Oh! Post it! Post it!
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Post by Dingoleap on May 5, 2017 20:24:01 GMT -5
I'm fiddling with a more poetic style for stories. It's quite fun, but also difficult since everything has to flow a lot more... poetically.
I'll try and post a one-shot today!
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 5, 2017 20:30:21 GMT -5
That will be cool to see. Hope to see it!
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Post by Dingoleap on May 5, 2017 20:46:29 GMT -5
Hint: It's about wolves. Technically, its science fiction, which is quite different from anything I've written before. It's also very angsty.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 5, 2017 21:09:50 GMT -5
Is it from your story Razor's Edge?
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Post by Dingoleap on May 5, 2017 21:20:40 GMT -5
Yes XD
For so long, I viewed the protagonist, Swift, as someone unsympathetic. Carved from stone, as it were. She's spent so long presenting an efficient and emotionless front that I've started to ignore the marginally softer side to her. I started looking at the events that shaped her into what she is, and so the angst was born! Her life has been quite, well, angsty, and she forces herself to believe a lie so she can continue to justify her actions, and yet it slowly eats away at her, until she reaches her breaking point. Not to mention that each such event drastically effects her relationships with the other characters - particularly her second in command, Blade. She begins with his unquestioning support, but as the story progresses, her pack gradually begins to loose their faith in her. It's a story about trust, hope, family - and what it means to find it, only to loose it all again.
Funnily enough, it didn't start out as this. It's partly why the projects been on hold for so long - its developing too fast for me to keep up XD It started off as a war story, with a good dose of revenge, but now it is so, so much more.
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 5, 2017 21:27:46 GMT -5
*chuckles* Yep. That's exactly how an author talks about their story. I've said the same line of things about my Will C. Morgen story.
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Post by Dingoleap on May 5, 2017 21:30:49 GMT -5
XD It is both a curse and a blessing
Oooh, I love your Will story! I can't wait to read more of it! And the love triangle part of it intrigues me XD
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 5, 2017 21:52:35 GMT -5
Yes, yes it is. Wouldn't give it away for the world though.Thanks! Yes, I really hope I can do that right. ^^' I have several Will stories going. The human version is the one that always tries to write itself without me. XD
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Post by Dingoleap on May 5, 2017 22:19:02 GMT -5
Hear hear!
I'm sure you can!
Ah, some stories are like that, aren't they XD Especially, I find, when it comes to AU's
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Post by mintedstar/fur🦇 on May 5, 2017 22:57:51 GMT -5
Alternate universes are joys... accept they all vi for my attention at the same time. x.x Heh, yes. Actually, the fan fic is the AU and the human version is the original. But it is supper hard to tell at this point. XD
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Post by Dingoleap on May 6, 2017 15:50:09 GMT -5
It all starts to blend together after a while XD
OOoh, that's interesting!
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