Post by αηgєℓι¢α ѕ¢нυуℓєя on May 20, 2017 10:59:51 GMT -5
Yes, he is.
(thanks mousedapple for ur rant)
Also, here's a scene of him fighting/training in the Dark Forest in Crookedstar's Promise.
And no, don't give me, 'Silverhawk just taught him that way and Thistleclaw believed him.' Thistleclaw knew he was training in the Dark Forest and breaking the Warrior Code, but he didn't care. When Crookedjaw found out this, he decided he was out.
Here's a few quotes of his from the Warriors wiki, with page numbers.
'"He'd never seen a hunger for battle like this,' - crookedjaw about thistleclaw, crookedstar's promise, page 328
'But I don't want my Clan to be led into endless fighting. Our borders are strong enough without being marked over and over with blood. ThunderClan deserves to live in peace, and I believe you can give it that.' - sunstar about thistleclaw to bluefur, bluestar's prophecy, page 493
"StarClan? You mouse-brain! This isn't StarClan! Those smug, toothless fools won't teach you anything as useful as this." - crookedstar's promise, page 392
"If only they had seen him as she had, with his claws at Oakheart's throat, goading Tigerclaw on to savage a helpless kit, pacing the borders with wild-eyed hunger for revenge. The memories gave Bluefur strength. Whatever it had cost her, she was the only cat who could stand in Thistleclaw's way. Only she knew what he was capable of." - bluestar's prophecy, chapter 42
I'm done.
- He praticed battle moves with his kit, while he was a kit with claws unsheathed, probably scarring Whitestorm for life.
- He encouraged his apprentice to attack an untrained, kittypet kit. The Warrior Code says: "No warrior can neglect a kit in pain or danger, even if the kit is from a different Clan.".
- He abused a pregnant cat (Bluefur), and blamed her for Snowfur's death.
- He scared prey away from a hunting patrol because Bluefur was on it.
- He trained in the Dark Forest, with the exact same plan as cats like Tigerstar to become leader of ThunderClan and take over the other Clans.
- Tigerstar wouldn't have been as evil (he still would be, but probably not the messed up thing he is now) with a different mentor.
- He died attacking a RiverClan patrol. Not defending himself, attacking.
- He tried to get into a relationship with a kit/apprentice. That's like a 30 year old man trying to date an 8 year old. Not cool.
(thanks mousedapple for ur rant)
Also, here's a scene of him fighting/training in the Dark Forest in Crookedstar's Promise.
Silverhawk crouched, growling at Thistleclaw. Thistleclaw stretched his claws and hissed. They circled eachother, eyes like slits. Suddenly Silverhawk darted forward. Thistleclaw ducked away from his mentor's jaws and Silverhawk's teeth snapped at thin air.
'Did you think you'd get me that easily?' Thistleclaw hissed.
Silverhawk crouched lower. 'Say that again.'
'Did you think-'
Before Thistleclaw could finish, Silverhawk leaped on him and dug his claws into Thistleclaw's shoulders. Crookedjaw gasped when he saw the blood welling up in the spiky gray-and-white fur. Thistleclaw yowled, trying to get a grip, but Silverhawk heaved him onto his back and kicked his churning hind paws away. Crookedjaw's breath stopped in his throat as Silverhawk lunged for Thistleclaw's neck. Opening his jaws wide, he gripped his apprentice's throat in his teeth.
No! He was going to give a killing bite. Crookedjaw started to rush foward, but Mapleshade knocked him back with a vicious blow.
'Wait,' she growled.
Silverhawk let go of Thistleclaw.
The ThunderClan warrior leaped to his paws, ignoring the drops of blood that flew off his pelt. 'Let me try that on you!' he begged. 'I think I know what to do now.'
Crookedjaw stared in horror. 'You're teaching him how to kill? But that's against the warrior code!'
Thistleclaw's gaze flashed at him. Contempt lit his eyes. 'If you want to be more than just a warrior,' he snarled,'you have to be prepared to look beyond the warrior code!'
Silverhawk padded closer. 'Victory is everything,' he hissed. 'There's no glory in surrender.'
Thistleclaw tipped his head to one side. 'Do you want me to show you how the killing bite's done?'
Crookedjaw recoiled. 'No!'
'No?' Thistleclaw narrowed his eyes. 'What do mean, no? Why wouldn't you want to learn such a powerful move?' He looked puzzled.
Crookedjaw took two steps back. The fur along his spine was standing on end. 'I didn't know StarClan was like this!'
'StarClan?' Thistleclaw blinked. 'You mouse-brain! This isn't StarClan! Those smug, toothless fools won't teach you anything as useful as this."
'This isn't StarClan?' Crookedjaw's mind whirled. 'Then... where am I?'
Silverhawk pushed past Thistleclaw. 'This is the Dark Forest,' he snarled. 'This is where you go if StarClan won't take you.'
'Did you think you'd get me that easily?' Thistleclaw hissed.
Silverhawk crouched lower. 'Say that again.'
'Did you think-'
Before Thistleclaw could finish, Silverhawk leaped on him and dug his claws into Thistleclaw's shoulders. Crookedjaw gasped when he saw the blood welling up in the spiky gray-and-white fur. Thistleclaw yowled, trying to get a grip, but Silverhawk heaved him onto his back and kicked his churning hind paws away. Crookedjaw's breath stopped in his throat as Silverhawk lunged for Thistleclaw's neck. Opening his jaws wide, he gripped his apprentice's throat in his teeth.
No! He was going to give a killing bite. Crookedjaw started to rush foward, but Mapleshade knocked him back with a vicious blow.
'Wait,' she growled.
Silverhawk let go of Thistleclaw.
The ThunderClan warrior leaped to his paws, ignoring the drops of blood that flew off his pelt. 'Let me try that on you!' he begged. 'I think I know what to do now.'
Crookedjaw stared in horror. 'You're teaching him how to kill? But that's against the warrior code!'
Thistleclaw's gaze flashed at him. Contempt lit his eyes. 'If you want to be more than just a warrior,' he snarled,'you have to be prepared to look beyond the warrior code!'
Silverhawk padded closer. 'Victory is everything,' he hissed. 'There's no glory in surrender.'
Thistleclaw tipped his head to one side. 'Do you want me to show you how the killing bite's done?'
Crookedjaw recoiled. 'No!'
'No?' Thistleclaw narrowed his eyes. 'What do mean, no? Why wouldn't you want to learn such a powerful move?' He looked puzzled.
Crookedjaw took two steps back. The fur along his spine was standing on end. 'I didn't know StarClan was like this!'
'StarClan?' Thistleclaw blinked. 'You mouse-brain! This isn't StarClan! Those smug, toothless fools won't teach you anything as useful as this."
'This isn't StarClan?' Crookedjaw's mind whirled. 'Then... where am I?'
Silverhawk pushed past Thistleclaw. 'This is the Dark Forest,' he snarled. 'This is where you go if StarClan won't take you.'
And no, don't give me, 'Silverhawk just taught him that way and Thistleclaw believed him.' Thistleclaw knew he was training in the Dark Forest and breaking the Warrior Code, but he didn't care. When Crookedjaw found out this, he decided he was out.
Here's a few quotes of his from the Warriors wiki, with page numbers.
'"He'd never seen a hunger for battle like this,' - crookedjaw about thistleclaw, crookedstar's promise, page 328
'But I don't want my Clan to be led into endless fighting. Our borders are strong enough without being marked over and over with blood. ThunderClan deserves to live in peace, and I believe you can give it that.' - sunstar about thistleclaw to bluefur, bluestar's prophecy, page 493
"StarClan? You mouse-brain! This isn't StarClan! Those smug, toothless fools won't teach you anything as useful as this." - crookedstar's promise, page 392
"If only they had seen him as she had, with his claws at Oakheart's throat, goading Tigerclaw on to savage a helpless kit, pacing the borders with wild-eyed hunger for revenge. The memories gave Bluefur strength. Whatever it had cost her, she was the only cat who could stand in Thistleclaw's way. Only she knew what he was capable of." - bluestar's prophecy, chapter 42
I'm done.