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Post by Owlmoon on Feb 26, 2017 18:09:13 GMT -5
Which is the most loyal?
(Please don't vote BloodClan...)
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Post by Blizzardkit on Jun 2, 2017 20:53:55 GMT -5
SkyClan's my favorite Clan, but just too many just gave up in Hawkwings Journey. WindClan didn't have too many betrayals, if any. ThunderClan had Pinestar and Tawnypelt, RiverClan (as you said) Stormfur, and ShadowClan... basical every cat.
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Post by Katanaheart on Jun 6, 2017 11:27:22 GMT -5
There have been no WindClan cats that have ever left WindClan for another Clan.
RiverClan had Stormfur leave for the Tribe.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 6:16:53 GMT -5
Shadowclan used to be until Darktail , Thunderclan isn't loyal as much. Windclan did have both Gorsetail and Crowfeather go against their clan. I would have to say Riverclan at this point of warriors.
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Post by Alpha on Jun 11, 2017 15:11:43 GMT -5
WindClan: The Swift and Loyal
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Post by Tas on Jun 12, 2017 6:11:55 GMT -5
Isn't one of ThunderClan's signature traits being loyal?
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Post by Blizzardkit on Jun 12, 2017 22:21:31 GMT -5
Possibly, but just look at all the deserters. Pinestar, Tawnypelt, Tigerstar, Darkstripe, and many others.
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Post by Tas on Jun 13, 2017 6:17:54 GMT -5
Yes, I was wrong - WindClan is the one really described as loyal.
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Post by ⌭ ᑕᖇᑌIᑎᑎ ᔕᗩOᒪ ⌭ on Jun 18, 2017 12:05:24 GMT -5
Original,y I would have had to debate over whether it was Shadowclan or Riverclan, but now since most of Shadowclan backstabbed their own clan in favor of Darktail I'll have to say Riverclan. Windclan has had quite a few cats either betray or leave the clan, Onestar, Tallstar (temporarily back when he was Talltail), Crowfeather, Breezepelt, Antpelt, etc). Thunderclan has had FAR to many code breakers and cats who are actually loyal, (Dovewing practically did, Ivypool, Birchfall, Bluestar, Pinestar, Ashfur, Tigerstar, Tawnypelt, Mapleshade, Darkstripe, Graystripe, Leafpool and the list goes on). Skyclan practically fell part during Hawkwings journey, a lot of the cats left after loosing faith or just because they didn't want to leave, (Ebonyclaw, Mintfur, Sagenose, Curlypaw, Cherrytail, Cloudmist, etc) instead of the other cats who either died or were captured by twolegs. Riverclan has had the least amount of cats betray them or do bad deeds, (Stormfur, Hawkfrost, Reedwhisker, Appledusk), so I find them the most loyal.
-DandyLilNerd-
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Post by Tas on Jun 18, 2017 18:03:51 GMT -5
Original,y I would have had to debate over whether it was Shadowclan or Riverclan, but now since most of Shadowclan backstabbed their own clan in favor of Darktail I'll have to say Riverclan. Windclan has had quite a few cats either betray or leave the clan, Onestar, Tallstar (temporarily back when he was Talltail), Crowfeather, Breezepelt, Antpelt, etc). Thunderclan has had FAR to many code breakers and cats who are actually loyal, (Dovewing practically did, Ivypool, Birchfall, Bluestar, Pinestar, Ashfur, Tigerstar, Tawnypelt, Mapleshade, Darkstripe, Graystripe, Leafpool and the list goes on). Skyclan practically fell part during Hawkwings journey, a lot of the cats left after loosing faith or just because they didn't want to leave, (Ebonyclaw, Mintfur, Sagenose, Curlypaw, Cherrytail, Cloudmist, etc) instead of the other cats who either died or were captured by twolegs. Riverclan has had the least amount of cats betray them or do bad deeds, (Stormfur, Hawkfrost, Reedwhisker, Appledusk), so I find them the most loyal. -DandyLilNerd- I can't say I fully agree with this. Most of the cats you named had very good reasons for leaving. - Talltail truly believed that Sparrow had killed Sandgorse, and Heatherstar received a message from StarClan about it and gave Talltail permission to leave. And he more than proved himself as leader afterwards. - Dovewing shouldn't be on the list YET. - How is Ashfur not loyal? While what he did was completely wrong (of course), he was always a loyal warrior. - All the SkyClan cats had perfectly good reasons for not wanting to leave. They were daylight-warriors but they had proven their loyalty many times over. They didn't want to abandon their home and their Twolegs to go on a journey to find a new home... and they might not even have found it! Would you call the Tribe cats who stayed in the mountains, refusing to follow the Sun Trail disloyal?
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Post by Streamy on Jun 18, 2017 18:07:37 GMT -5
Windclan without a doubt. They've had the least amount of deserters and betrayals, if my memory serves me correctly.
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Post by literalynxxo on Jun 24, 2017 11:41:59 GMT -5
WindClan obviously.
and i'm not just saying that because crowfeather is my favorite character.
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Post by snowfoot on Jun 25, 2017 21:18:49 GMT -5
I feel like windclan and riverclan are most loyal, but pretty much only because theyre not included in the plot enough to have interesting characters ahaha
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Post by literalynxxo on Jun 26, 2017 12:14:47 GMT -5
The way I see it is every clan has a mark on it for unloyalty. Each time a cat runs away to meet another, we'll mark that as a sign of disloyalty against their Clan.
Crowfeather-Leafpool Heatherpaw-Lionpaw Tigerheart-Dovewing Graystripe-Silverstream Bluestar-Oakheart Mapleshade-Applefur Brambleclaw-Hawkfrost Tigerstar-Scourge Tigerstar-Leopardstar (pretty sure those are most of em')
So tallied up: WindClan- 2 ThunderClan- 7 ShadowClan- 3 RiverClan- 5
Buuut then we have BloodClan who only strayed from their path with Barley and Violet (and technically Scourge, but I don't think that that's fair to count) With SkyClan we have the whole, 'kitty warrior' thing.
The way I see it, WindClan and BloodClan are tied. But obviously, Wind is better so that answers my vote
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Post by ivyclaw44 on Jul 1, 2017 18:46:52 GMT -5
i would have to say shadow clan they have had a line of bad leaders and some looked on as blackstar killed a cat but when they got to their new home all the cats stayed loyal to blackstar (btw not hate on blackstar i love him)
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Post by Snowfire on Jul 2, 2017 21:36:26 GMT -5
I Honestly think RiverClan and WindClan.
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Post by iniquitous ecstasy on Jul 3, 2017 19:57:26 GMT -5
Was ShadowClan until A Vision of Shadows came along and messed them all up...
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Post by -Aspenpaw- on Jul 30, 2017 0:58:25 GMT -5
I agree! Good explanation
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Post by me on Aug 1, 2017 13:21:34 GMT -5
Until the new series come , I could say ShadowClan. It had some bad leaders ( Brokenstar , Tigerstar ) , but they continued to follow their leader and stay loyal to them and clan . They could do terrible things for their leader.
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Post by outcast on Aug 8, 2017 22:31:11 GMT -5
in my opinion,i think thunderclan is the most loyal, because look at firestar, he's the best leader, at least to me and he was willing to give up his life on many occasions, even for clans that weren't his own, like skyclan when he went to go save them, and in the last hope, he died saving everyone, and there are other examples on how thunderclan is very loyal, not just his character
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