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Post by pastelpills on Dec 3, 2016 6:32:10 GMT -5
There is... a significant amount haters for obvious reasons (which you really don't need to say in the comments, seriously, we know it). I feel like I just might be the only Leafpool fan on this forum despite the results of one poll I made a while ago, which showed that twice as much people liked Leafpool as those that disliked her, which is impressive considering what most people says.
Anyways, I really feel like Leafpool doesn't really deserve all the hate she's getting. I mean people talk about her as if she was satan spawn.
Regardless, are there actually any Leafpool fans out there?
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Post by whiteflight on Dec 3, 2016 6:55:29 GMT -5
I'm still a leafpool fan idk why but no matter what people say about her I still like her XD
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Post by 𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥 on Dec 3, 2016 7:55:35 GMT -5
Not as much as I used to, but I definitely like Leafpool. While I understand why people dislike her, I don't understand why they call her "bland". Her arc, while annoying at times, is definitely interesting. Besides, a bland character wouldn't have such a varying range of opinions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 10:08:17 GMT -5
Leafpool is fine. I'm no fan, I like her, but because of the whole Crowfeather thing I am not a huge fan of her.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 3, 2016 10:25:04 GMT -5
I will admit, that after reading Thunder and Shadow, she has gained a bit of my respect back, even though I still dislike her character. But I did like the moments when she talked to Rowanstar the way she did, and defended ShadowClan from Onestar, along with her mentoring skills with Alderpaw and Puddleshine. But she still has work to do before I forgive her for her previous mistakes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 10:29:31 GMT -5
I don't mind her.
I think there's a whole chunk of characters that actually intend to hurt others that people should be more upset about other than Leafpool. But hey, precious Squirrelflight needs to be avenged so grab your torch and pitch forks. It's not like taking Leafpool and throwing her off a cliff would harm precious Squirrelflight, would it? Nah, we'd probably just pat Squirrelflight on the head and say it was for her own good. Nevermind she just lost a sister she loved dearly- justice would be served.
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Post by Wicked Witch on Dec 3, 2016 12:33:33 GMT -5
I don't mind her. I think there's a whole chunk of characters that actually intend to hurt others that people should be more upset about other than Leafpool. But hey, precious Squirrelflight needs to be avenged so grab your torch and pitch forks. It's not like taking Leafpool and throwing her off a cliff would harm precious Squirrelflight, would it? Nah, we'd probably just pat Squirrelflight on the head and say it was for her own good. Nevermind she just lost a sister she loved dearly- justice would be served. what is happening here
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Dec 3, 2016 12:48:46 GMT -5
I'm a Leafpool fan. I really liked her close relationship with Squirrelflight, her good friendship with Mothwing, and her overall personality.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 13:09:57 GMT -5
I don't mind her. I think there's a whole chunk of characters that actually intend to hurt others that people should be more upset about other than Leafpool. But hey, precious Squirrelflight needs to be avenged so grab your torch and pitch forks. It's not like taking Leafpool and throwing her off a cliff would harm precious Squirrelflight, would it? Nah, we'd probably just pat Squirrelflight on the head and say it was for her own good. Nevermind she just lost a sister she loved dearly- justice would be served. People just don't like Leafpool because she pretty much dragged her sister into a mistake she shouldn't have made.. lol. Idk what I just read though
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Post by finland on Dec 3, 2016 13:17:29 GMT -5
Leafpool is cool.
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Post by pastelpills on Dec 3, 2016 15:16:18 GMT -5
I will admit, that after reading Thunder and Shadow, she has gained a bit of my respect back, even though I still dislike her character. But I did like the moments when she talked to Rowanstar the way she did, and defended ShadowClan from Onestar, along with her mentoring skills with Alderpaw and Puddleshine. But she still has work to do before I forgive her for her previous mistakes. For some reason that last sentence made me laugh out loud.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 3, 2016 18:28:12 GMT -5
I will admit, that after reading Thunder and Shadow, she has gained a bit of my respect back, even though I still dislike her character. But I did like the moments when she talked to Rowanstar the way she did, and defended ShadowClan from Onestar, along with her mentoring skills with Alderpaw and Puddleshine. But she still has work to do before I forgive her for her previous mistakes. For some reason that last sentence made me laugh out loud. ? I fail to see how my opinion is supposed to be laughable.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Dec 3, 2016 20:02:39 GMT -5
I really like Leafpool, and feel bad for all she has suffered. At the same time, she is a realistic character, with realistic conflicts, and is not presented as perfect. Her actions have consequences, both good and bad, which makes her a more complex character and one more relatable to the audience.
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Post by pastelpills on Dec 4, 2016 1:52:45 GMT -5
For some reason that last sentence made me laugh out loud. ? I fail to see how my opinion is supposed to be laughable. [brnNo, not in that way, it isn't laughable. I think it's the way you said it.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Dec 4, 2016 6:10:52 GMT -5
? I fail to see how my opinion is supposed to be laughable. [brnNo, not in that way, it isn't laughable. I think it's the way you said it. Alright then. But I mean it's true, in my opinion. I think she still has more work to do before I can really forgive her as a character in my eyes. I used to actually really like her, over Squirrelflight even, but after the whole mess with Crowfeather, she fell a lot on my list. Now that she's not really associated with him anymore, I'm starting to lean on neutral, but still dislike. I just hope the Erins keep her character up the way it is right now, through out the rest of the series.
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Post by pastelpills on Dec 4, 2016 7:51:29 GMT -5
[brnNo, not in that way, it isn't laughable. I think it's the way you said it. Alright then. But I mean it's true, in my opinion. I think she still has more work to do before I can really forgive her as a character in my eyes. I used to actually really like her, over Squirrelflight even, but after the whole mess with Crowfeather, she fell a lot on my list. Now that she's not really associated with him anymore, I'm starting to lean on neutral, but still dislike. I just hope the Erins keep her character up the way it is right now, through out the rest of the series. I see what you mean.
Explain to me please, why do Erins ruin characters? Im pretty sure that every single person that is a warrior fan liked some character that was ruined.
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Post by Aku on Dec 4, 2016 13:34:30 GMT -5
I still like Leafpool! I honestly don't understand the 'she needs to die' thing that people keep saying. There may be three medicine cats and she may be the oldest, but she could very well just retire instead of dying, I feel like everyone is forgetting retirement is an option.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Dec 4, 2016 13:52:20 GMT -5
I never really don't care for her and thought she was a little boring. In fact, the only times I found her interesting were when she messed up, even though I don't agree with her decisions. I also believe she should either die or at the very least retire.
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Post by Cinderleaf on Dec 4, 2016 14:14:10 GMT -5
I love Leafpool. She's my favorite character in Warriors.
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Post by Brambleshadow on Jan 15, 2017 15:15:19 GMT -5
I really like Leafpool, and feel bad for all she has suffered. At the same time, she is a realistic character, with realistic conflicts, and is not presented as perfect. Her actions have consequences, both good and bad, which makes her a more complex character and one more relatable to the audience. ^^^ Yes, this. I really like her, too. As for her relationship with Crowfeather... I saw her as being tsundere with him before either of them admitted their feelings for each other. Actually, Leafpool does have a tsundere side to her personality—she just doesn't show it that often. And she does show rebellious tendencies as early as Midnight (not to mention she'll go behind other cats' backs in order to help Mothwing and other cats from other Clans who need her medicine cat skills).
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Post by Owlmoon on Jan 15, 2017 18:16:30 GMT -5
I'm a fan, I just don't like her having a relationship with Crow. It kinda ruined her character... Otherwise she's cool!
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Post by pastelpills on Jan 16, 2017 1:35:35 GMT -5
I can understand why people would like leafpool. Most of the hate she gets often leeches of slut shaming. :/ She never really did anything that bad so there isn't much objective reason to hate her. My reasons for not liking her are more subjective in that I just don't enjoy her. Slut shaming? I don't really get that...
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Post by Rainshadow on Jan 16, 2017 7:41:17 GMT -5
I really love Leafpool a lot so yes I am a fan. I also don't see how her character was ruined... sure she changed but she went through a lot so it's only normal for her to change.
Basically, what wheeledwarrior said.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 8:09:50 GMT -5
No. I feel meh about her.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 8:14:50 GMT -5
I've always enjoyed Leafpool personally.
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Post by pastelpills on Jan 16, 2017 10:24:24 GMT -5
No. I feel meh about her. Idk if it's just me but quite a lot of people said that they like her here. So wouldn't necessarily say no... But hey, what do i know.
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Post by Holly Snow on Jan 16, 2017 17:28:42 GMT -5
I can understand why people would like leafpool. Most of the hate she gets often leeches of slut shaming. :/ She never really did anything that bad so there isn't much objective reason to hate her. My reasons for not liking her are more subjective in that I just don't enjoy her. Slut shaming? I don't really get that... Lots of people hate her for being foolish about porking with Crowfeather and then for things that didn't have a good solution. We don't know what would have happened if she just declared the three were hers from the beginning. I don't think firestar would have exiled her, but I think he would be aware that people would think nepotism if he didn't punish Leafpool at all. If her title was removed that would leave Thunderclan vulnerable. I bring this up because what is really so morally wrong about Leafpool having an accidental pregnancy outside of the rules assigned to it? She porked, she didn't kill or steal. Yet she is treated like she did. One could even make a convincing argument for why the rules surrounding her position that made this a problem in the first place were foolish.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 17:39:15 GMT -5
I really love Leafpool a lot so yes I am a fan. I also don't see how her character was ruined... sure she changed but she went through a lot so it's only normal for her to change. Basically, what wheeledwarrior said. As Leafpaw, she was willing to put her Clan above herself, willing to help anyone even outside the Clans (when she helped Morningwhisker or other cats in WindClan). She was very patient and caring, and that's what a medicine cat is supposed to be. But as Leafpool, she ran away with Crowfeather because she loved him, and had his kits. Now, Crowfeather is partly to blame as well since he came up with the idea to run away, but she shouldn't have agreed. She became selfish, and left her family. Everyone, including Squirrelflight was deeply affected that her own sister would leave ThunderClan for a WindClan cat, a cat she had only just met. That's why people don't like Leafpool. They also don't like the fact that she lied to the Three, and dragged Squirrelflight into her issues when she should have faced the consenquences herself. Because of this, Yellowfang needed to lie (it was for a good reason, but still not a good thing to do) to Squirrelflight for being barren, so she can accept Leafpool's kits. Poor Squirrelflight was actually pressured by both Yellowfang and Feathertail when she didn't want to lie to her Clan. How could this have been avoided? If Leafpool hadn't ran away, none of this would have happened. Crow X Leaf weren't even needed. Heck, Bramble X Squirrel could have had the Three, or some other couple. We didn't need another forbidden love couple to happen for the Three to exist. Leafpool made it up in the end, especially when she told off Rowanstar and Onestar, but I still don't like how selfish she was. She even went as far as screaming at Cinderpelt, comparing how she doesn't understand her own feelings, when Cinderpelt of all characters knew what it was like to love someone you couldn't have. Cinderpelt warned Leafpool over and over again. Leafpool even knew all along that she shouldn't have broken the warrior code, but she did it anyway, and look at the damage that happened because of her and Crowfeather. Crowfeather lost a lot of reputation, losing trust in him from the Clan, and Leafpool's rank was dropped, Hollyleaf was gone for a very long time due to stress, Ashfur was killed by Hollyleaf.. the list could go on. It's almost just as bad as the mistake Yellowfang made. So many cats were affected, mentally and physically because of Leafpool's mistake. If she hadn't run away, if she had listened to Cinderpelt's warnings, then she would have been a fine medicine cat. This is why people don't like Leafpool, why they believe she "changed". She was written to be a great medicine cat that the Clan needed... only for yet another forbidden love couple to completely ruin lives from many cats.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 17:41:23 GMT -5
I can forgive Leafpool, but that doesn't mean that what she did was okay. She was still selfish, and put Crowfeather above her own family, a cat she barely met.
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