|
Millie
Jul 31, 2016 16:48:19 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 16:48:19 GMT -5
Do you think she is a better mate for Graystripe instead of Silverstream?
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 17:21:04 GMT -5
I do. Millie and Graystripe actually developed. Millie may have said all she wanted the entire time was to be his mate, but they still developed. They had fights and learned to respect one another and depend on one another. There's not sneaking around or lying involved in their relationship, which makes it better for their chemistry as well as overall relationship and warrior duties. They can see each other every day and be themselves. It's so much better.
Graystripe's only a "bad" father now because he is actually able to see his kits and not worry about them as much. With his first litter with Silverstream, he had to worry about them being half clan, being judged or hurt, and he had to leave his birth clan to be with them, but eventually went back to thunderclan...like it was so complicated back then, plus he was very young too. The only reason why he isn't as involved with the 3B's is because he has no need to worry (expect when Briarlight almost died like a million times now).
|
|
|
Millie
Jul 31, 2016 19:32:09 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 19:32:09 GMT -5
Not really. She's a good friend to him, but they aren't that good as lovers. Their whole relationship seemed to crumble and fall away into nothing as soon as Millie had kits. They should have just stayed friends
|
|
|
Millie
Jul 31, 2016 19:57:13 GMT -5
Post by moonmasksunfrost on Jul 31, 2016 19:57:13 GMT -5
I'm kind of ambivalent on both pairings, but his actions with Millie were definitely... Not good. He is hardly seen interacting with his kids, except for one time where he watches Briarlight do stretches. That may be just lazy writing on the Erins' part, but I still don't like it.
Again, I don't have an issue with either of the parings- Graystripe and Millie had great interaction and development, and Silverstream was pretty cute with him. It's the actions that resulted from those pairings that rub me the wrong way- Graystripe being a lazy mentor and a bad friend because of Silverstream, and the bad family dynamic that Millie and the three B's had, which would likely have been very different if Graystripe had stepped in and actually been an active figure in their lives.
|
|
|
Millie
Jul 31, 2016 21:13:24 GMT -5
Post by frostshade123 on Jul 31, 2016 21:13:24 GMT -5
Eh I honestly don't like Millie all that much considering that ever since Briarlight's leg got injured she turned against Bumblestripe and Blossomfall and started neglecting them. To me Silverstream felt like the much better mate for Graystripe. So yeah.
|
|
|
Millie
Aug 1, 2016 17:27:54 GMT -5
Post by Uмвяᴀ on Aug 1, 2016 17:27:54 GMT -5
She might be as she did give up her entire life to be with Graystripe, but at the same time, she was not the best to the kits (and neither was Graystripe). She is a good mate in the sense of her devotion, but I would not want a mate who would treat my kits badly.
It's hard to make a fair comparison as we don't know what would have happened if Silverstream had lived.
|
|
|
Millie
Aug 6, 2016 5:21:09 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 5:21:09 GMT -5
I think she was a good mate, but a poor mother. As much as I love Blossomfall and Brairlight, it would've been interesting to see a couple in Warriors who actually don't end up having kits.
|
|
|
Millie
Aug 6, 2016 6:02:12 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 6:02:12 GMT -5
I don't really feel like their relationship is really towards mate rather than a very good friendship or something
|
|
|
Millie
Aug 12, 2016 21:34:52 GMT -5
Post by McFlurry on Aug 12, 2016 21:34:52 GMT -5
I prefer Millie over Silverstream, so I believe shes a better mate solely by bias.
|
|
|
Millie
Aug 13, 2016 17:08:35 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 17:08:35 GMT -5
I think she was a good mate, but a poor mother. As much as I love Blossomfall and Brairlight, it would've been interesting to see a couple in Warriors who actually don't end up having kits. True.
|
|
|
Millie
Aug 14, 2016 6:35:45 GMT -5
Post by moonmasksunfrost on Aug 14, 2016 6:35:45 GMT -5
I think she was a good mate, but a poor mother. As much as I love Blossomfall and Brairlight, it would've been interesting to see a couple in Warriors who actually don't end up having kits. True. *coughBrambleandSquirrelcough* In all seriousness, you make a good point. The Clans are too overpopulated anyways; not everybody has to have kittens. Though at this point, I like both Alderpaw and Sparkpaw as characters, I do wish that Squirrelflight had initially "stayed barren," you know? Graystripe and Millie are a great example because literally all their kits did was create drama, whether intentionally or not.
|
|
|
Post by theRavenflight on Aug 19, 2016 8:18:09 GMT -5
I think that she was a better mate to him than Silverstream. There are a lot of AMVs and MAPs about Silver and Gray that makes me want to believe that they were the better couple but...really, if you think about it, they were just lovesick young cats who didn't care what rules they broke. Yes, they did love each other, but...Millie was there for Greystripe when he was lost and about to give up. She stayed with him and left her elderly owner for him. She risked facing ridicule from an entire group of strange feral cats. And we can see how jealous Greystripe got when they fought and Millie was being friendly with Diesel...he really loves her, and she has spent more time with him than Silverstream did (yes, she died early but...would Greystripe have ever left ThunderClan to be with her if she DIDN'T die? We will never know...).
|
|
|
Millie
Aug 23, 2016 18:07:18 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 18:07:18 GMT -5
i like neither of them for greystripe. i prefer him single honestly, plus i feel that he can sometimes be immature about relationships and his children.
|
|
|
|
Millie
Dec 1, 2016 19:45:10 GMT -5
Post by Holy Fern on Dec 1, 2016 19:45:10 GMT -5
Actually, I think not. Millie loved Graystripe a lot, but she was abusive to Blossomfall.
|
|
|
Millie
Dec 1, 2016 19:48:26 GMT -5
Post by Holy Fern on Dec 1, 2016 19:48:26 GMT -5
Personally, I liked Graystripe with Silverstream more. They had a nice relationship it was sad when Silverstream died. I think I was upset before I read the manga. I thought that Graystripe just ditched Silverstream. After I read the manga it made me understand more. But I still prefer Graystripe x Silverstream. I cried when poor Silverstream died. I WISH SHE HAD LIVED! And yes, the relationship between Graytripe and Silverstream was better than Graystripe and Millie's.
|
|
|
Millie
Dec 10, 2016 23:39:19 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 23:39:19 GMT -5
Personally, I liked Graystripe with Silverstream more. They had a nice relationship it was sad when Silverstream died. I think I was upset before I read the manga. I thought that Graystripe just ditched Silverstream. After I read the manga it made me understand more. But I still prefer Graystripe x Silverstream. I cried when poor Silverstream died. I WISH SHE HAD LIVED! And yes, the relationship between Graytripe and Silverstream was better than Graystripe and Millie's. Silver and Gray were both immature about it though. They both let their friends keep their relationship a secret even though they didn't like it. Gray was unappreciative to Fire, and Silver never respected his space. Gray neglected Bracken and spread greencough throughout the Clan, causing Bluestar to lose a life. Even Crookedstar hinted that he knew Gray kept seeing Silver. It was never going to work out, not unless someone moves into the Clan they live in. Gray X Millie is healthier, imo, especially since Gray didn't have to betray his Clan by being with Millie. People just dont like Millie with him because she is a bad mother. They have more history together, and if it wasn't for her, Gray wouldn't have returned to ThunderClan. Millie has done a lot for ThunderClan.
|
|
|
Millie
Dec 11, 2016 21:40:04 GMT -5
Post by Stoneflower on Dec 11, 2016 21:40:04 GMT -5
Although flawed, I found the relationship with graystripe and silverstream to be more entertaining.
|
|
|
|
Millie
Jan 16, 2017 12:19:55 GMT -5
Post by Owlmoon on Jan 16, 2017 12:19:55 GMT -5
I liked him and Silverstream better.
|
|
|
Millie
May 20, 2017 3:23:49 GMT -5
Post by ~Dappleheart~ on May 20, 2017 3:23:49 GMT -5
Greystripe and Millie have a more solid relationship, I suppose, but I'd have liked to have seen Silverstream get more development. Because we were limited to only Firepaw/heart's perspective during that whole storyline, we didn't get much of a chance to know her. She was essentially a plot element. If the relationship had been more drawn out, if she hadn't died, if we'd had chapters from Greystripe's perspective, showing him and Silverstream interacting, I think it would have been better.
But even if Grey x Millie is more solid, healthier, makes more sense, etc., I'm always gonna have a soft spot for Grey x Silver. I don't really like Millie, and I think Silverstream, although she didn't get fair treatment in the books, had a lot of character potential outside of Greystripe, their relationship, and the kits. Millie just seemed sorta flat to me, and like she was only there to give Greystripe a mate.
besides, forbidden romances are something of a guilty pleasure of mine whoops...
|
|